James Toney - What's Your Opinion

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  • TheGreat1
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    #11
    Originally posted by neils7147933
    sad as it may sound, I think John Ruiz is the best heavyweight right now. He and Byrd really need to fight. They're both King fighters. The loser will still be taken care of; maybe even get a shot at a different (read: WBO) belt.
    Ruiz is tough, but Bryd would would have a field day with Ruiz, just like RJJ did.

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    • GasPed
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      #12
      Toney is a great fighter...

      ...and an even better talker, but he ain't a heavyweight. A guy like V Klit is just too big and strong - Toney could never get to him.

      Having said that, he's probably a top 10 heavy right now (I think I just contradicted myself, but oh well )

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      • GxBrak
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        #13
        yeah, i think a great deal of vitali's success relies on his size and guts

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        • Neuraxis
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          #14
          James Toney will unify the belts and hold them until he retires. I hope you catch the sarcasm because I am laying it on pretty thick.

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          • Kimmy
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            #15
            No way! Skill wise Toney maybe the best fighter in the world but at heavy V Klitsko is the best. Who will beat him?? Byrd beat him but he lost nealy all the rounds and it was pull out on injury!
            Ruiz? No way, Klits walks through him. Brewster is a flsh in the pan and Toney is too small.
            Klitscko is the best heavy in the world. And if you disagree, tell me who will beat him and HOW?

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            • Moon
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              #16
              Originally posted by Munn
              Some people seem to believe that James Toney is the man.

              Why? Is it the WBC "Continental Americas Heavyweight" and IBA "Heavyweight Champ" titles? Or that whopping he put on the aging Evander? Or, could it be I missed something during that Jirov bout? Recently though, he got my attention with his domination of ...... Danny Green, now that's impressive.

              Really though, Toney had his day from 1991 to 94, notably against Barkley, but those are the 'ole days. He needs to beat "somebody", soon. Who?
              Just thought I'd redirect things back to the first question.

              Who does Toney need to fight/beat to move on and up?

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              • neils7147933
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                #17
                Toney is ranked #1 WBC and WBO. I don't know what formalities he has to go through - but it looks like if he can just not be injured, he'll get a shot next or a fight after next. All he has to do is stay ranked and not lose.

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                • Kimmy
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                  #18
                  A John Ruiz would help, a Chris Byrd or...this might offend, a mike Tyson. Tyson is shot and Toney might barter him over 12!

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                  • neils7147933
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Munn
                    Some people seem to believe that James Toney is the man.

                    Why? Is it the WBC "Continental Americas Heavyweight" and IBA "Heavyweight Champ" titles? Or that whopping he put on the aging Evander? Or, could it be I missed something during that Jirov bout? Recently though, he got my attention with his domination of ...... Danny Green, now that's impressive.

                    Really though, Toney had his day from 1991 to 94, notably against Barkley, but those are the 'ole days. He needs to beat "somebody", soon. Who?
                    Are you not aware that he's injured right now? When he comes back, he can tune up with Sweet **** Willy if he wants. He just needs to be active so that the WBC or WBO can name him as the mandatory. He's ranked #1 on both.

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                    • spinksjinx
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by thefix
                      im not sold on his stamina he looked very tired towards the end of the jirov fight as did jirov. could be just jirovs keep coming froward fighting style though that tired toney out


                      Most heavyweights wouldnt be able to **** at jirov's level...Both fighters are tremendous athletes and jirov is ALWAYS in top condition, I got tired just watching them both fight....


                      You are correct about the styles, I think a fight w/ a bigger fighter would be a lot slower and toney would plot more and move forward but slowly and not be at such a high pace although if needed Toney can kick it in gear....

                      Toney has all the right tools for him to be heavyweight champ, he can easily take all of them to the scorecards or even late rounds and clinch the Win.


                      Toneys heart and chin cant be questioned and truthfully cant be touched.

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