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  • Caxcan
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    #31
    I posted this on another thread which appears to be dead so I'll repost here. I'm not a self described Pac hater. I have plenty of respect for his talent but not necessarily for the way his team has handpicked some his opponents. I dont understand why he made the move up to lightweight if he's going to face superfeatherweights. There are so many talented fighters in the lightweight division already and so many potential great fights to be made. Several of the top lightweights also expressed their desire to face Pac before finalizing their current contracts.

    If Pac goes on to clean out the lightweight division, I think everyone would give him all the credit he deserves, however, it seems like he's more interested in closing out his career by going for the Hail Mary play and achieving an unlikely victory over fading DLH and Hatton rather than cleaning up against the toughest lightweights.

    I think it's a measured risk, DLH and Hatton would provide huge paydays. The odds are certainly going to be in favor of DLH or Hatton winning so if Pac were to lose to them, people would excuse those loses as being against larger opponents. However if Pac were to lose to someone like Campbell there would be no excuses. Campbell would have proven himself to be the superior boxer in Pac's current division.

    Anyway, no boxer should be above criticism. If Pac huggers had their way they'd probably have his mug in the middle of every page. At the end of the day I think the excessive pac love and unnecessary Pac hate balances out.

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      #32
      Originally posted by JaguarJames
      I posted this on another thread which appears to be dead so I'll repost here. I'm not a self described Pac hater. I have plenty of respect for his talent but not necessarily for the way his team has handpicked some his opponents. I dont understand why he made the move up to lightweight if he's going to face superfeatherweights. There are so many talented fighters in the lightweight division already and so many potential great fights to be made. Several of the top lightweights also expressed their desire to face Pac before finalizing their current contracts.

      If Pac goes on to clean out the lightweight division, I think everyone would give him all the credit he deserves, however, it seems like he's more interested in closing out his career by going for the Hail Mary play and achieving an unlikely victory over fading DLH and Hatton rather than cleaning up against the toughest lightweights.

      I think it's a measured risk, DLH and Hatton would provide huge paydays. The odds are certainly going to be in favor of DLH or Hatton winning so if Pac were to lose to them, people would excuse those loses as being against larger opponents. However if Pac were to lose to someone like Campbell there would be no excuses. Campbell would have proven himself to be the superior boxer in Pac's current division.

      Anyway, no boxer should be above criticism. If Pac huggers had their way they'd probably have his mug in the middle of every page. At the end of the day I think the excessive pac love and unnecessary Pac hate balances out.

      very similar to a basketball game

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        #33
        Originally posted by JOM'S
        you hit that on the nail bro ...

        any way I see it, the fight will be exciting while it last, and me on the edge of my seat the whole time ... LOL
        the funny thing is this is a fight that will help casual fans get excited about boxing again even though it sa mismatch this is what they wanna see Pure Action.
        They like watching underdogs.
        They like watching knockouts and they will get a knockout this fight but hopefully they will respect pacmans heart and bravery and realize not all boxers are ***** they will challenge even bigger men even if they get knocked silly.
        Just like roy jones jr challenging sam peter after he beats calzaghe.

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          #34
          Originally posted by JaguarJames
          I posted this on another thread which appears to be dead so I'll repost here. I'm not a self described Pac hater. I have plenty of respect for his talent but not necessarily for the way his team has handpicked some his opponents. I dont understand why he made the move up to lightweight if he's going to face superfeatherweights. There are so many talented fighters in the lightweight division already and so many potential great fights to be made. Several of the top lightweights also expressed their desire to face Pac before finalizing their current contracts.

          If Pac goes on to clean out the lightweight division, I think everyone would give him all the credit he deserves, however, it seems like he's more interested in closing out his career by going for the Hail Mary play and achieving an unlikely victory over fading DLH and Hatton rather than cleaning up against the toughest lightweights.

          I think it's a measured risk, DLH and Hatton would provide huge paydays. The odds are certainly going to be in favor of DLH or Hatton winning so if Pac were to lose to them, people would excuse those loses as being against larger opponents. However if Pac were to lose to someone like Campbell there would be no excuses. Campbell would have proven himself to be the superior boxer in Pac's current division.

          Anyway, no boxer should be above criticism. If Pac huggers had their way they'd probably have his mug in the middle of every page. At the end of the day I think the excessive pac love and unnecessary Pac hate balances out.
          you miss every point

          all the lightweights are taken soto and valero are dangerous and will be just as dangerous at 135 they are bigger then pacman these are dangeorus stay busy fights.
          Pacman is not even a natural lightweight
          Margarito fought lujan and golden johnson lol so you need to be quiet.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Live Dog
            very similar to a basketball game
            No actually that one was more like golf.

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              #36
              i know odlh is a hail marry but hatton fight is not and a legitimate target for a 6 World Title...

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                #37
                Originally posted by Domain
                you miss every point

                all the lightweights are taken soto and valero are dangerous and will be just as dangerous at 135 they are bigger then pacman these are dangeorus stay busy fights.
                Pacman is not even a natural lightweight
                Margarito fought lujan and golden johnson lol so you need to be quiet.
                Yeah but Pac is the man right now and he had first dibs on any of the lightweights (who are all itching to face him). He had the opportunity to discuss a deal before their current contracts had been finalized.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Domain
                  the funny thing is this is a fight that will help casual fans get excited about boxing again even though it sa mismatch this is what they wanna see Pure Action.
                  They like watching underdogs.
                  They like watching knockouts and they will get a knockout this fight but hopefully they will respect pacmans heart and bravery and realize not all boxers are ***** they will challenge even bigger men even if they get knocked silly.
                  Just like roy jones jr challenging sam peter after he beats calzaghe.
                  yeah that's why its win win situation for pac, similar to PAC-EM 1, manny lost that fight instead of taking out anything away from him, the fight added heart, character and another shot at Erik...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by JaguarJames
                    Yeah but Pac is the man right now and he had first dibs on any of the lightweights (who are all itching to face him). He had the opportunity to discuss a deal before their current contracts had been finalized.
                    um when was this?
                    lol dude you are full of **** so he can get any of them?
                    he would have to pay step aside money to the opponents you are crazy to think the other opponents would just step aside to whoever pac chooses.
                    It is disrespectful and plus a big chunk of the purse would be taken away from bob arum if he had to pay a step aside fee like 1 million bucks.
                    an a lightweight ppv would not make enough money to cover that.
                    pacmans last ppv no one bought it.
                    so it would be a straight loss.

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                      #40
                      pac has the most amount of haters - unlikely
                      pac has the loudest amount of haters - probably

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