Mayweather NEVER GAVE A (****) about the WW divison. BUT the WW division needed him 2

[deevel79]

These are all lies lol. You don't even have your facts straight lol. You are a Cotto fan. Your man lost. How could you possibly be commenting on Floyd or Margarito. You should be telling us Cotto will be back. Cotto can't beat anyone he isn't stronger than.

If they're all lies, dispute them then!

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

If the $8mil offer wasnt genuine, why hasnt Floyd ever came out and said so?

I searched for the link to Ellerbe's past comments and couldn't find it.

The truth is that Arum couldn't do anything to guarantee money wouldn't be coming out of Mayweather and Ellerbe's pockets.

And Floyd wanting out of his contract with Top Rank was another impasse @ that time.



Another truth is that Margarito brought no real status to any potential Mayweather-Margarito fight until 4 days ago.


And the outcome of La Battalia is the only reason this wagon is rebuilt and ridden on.

[Boofdatruth]

If they're all lies, dispute them then!

I did, over and over and over. You don't even have the 8 mil offer down as the truth. I've busted you over and over in the past.

[Boofdatruth]

I searched for the link to Ellerbe's past comments and couldn't find it.

The truth is that Arum couldn't do anything to guarantee money wouldn't be coming out of Mayweather and Ellerbe's pockets.

And Floyd wanting out of his contract with Top Rank was another impasse @ that time.



Another truth is that Margarito brought no real status to any potential Mayweather-Margarito fight until 4 days ago.


And the outcome of La Battalia is the only reason this wagon is rebuilt and ridden on.

The Wait Lengthens for Margarito
By Steve Kim (November 9, 2005) Photo Š German Villasenor
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Warning: to any fighter like WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito, who is scheduled to fight on any undercard featuring Vitali Klitschko - make sure you have a contingency plan.

When 'Brittle-ly' damaged his right knee late last week, he didn't just hobble himself, but also fighters like Margarito and WBA junior bantamweight titlist Martin Castillo, who were supposed to be featured performers on the televised portion of the pay-per-view undercard.

As of now, both standout Mexicans are in limbo.


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"I don't know, I really don't know," was the answer of a beleaguered Bob Arum, when he was asked by MaxBoxing on Tuesday morning what he had in mind for the duo. "I'm trying, but I can't do everything at the same time. We're trying to do the right thing, find a place for them but you've got to give me time."

Arum sounds frazzled as he says this. It's been a stressful time at Top Rank, which put up over $12 million to win the purse bid for Klitschko's title defense of his WBC belt against Hasim Rahman. Arum and his staff had worked tirelessly to promote the event, which was scheduled for the Thomas and Mack Arena in Las Vegas.

The WBC has granted Klitschko a 60-day reprieve to once again find a way to drop out of his next scheduled date against Rahman.

But now, Arum has to find dates for guys like Margarito, who hasn't fought since late April, when he blew out the previously undefeated Kermit Cintron. He had pitched to have his scheduled bout against Manny Gomez to be added to HBO's telecast of Floyd Mayweather's bout against Sharmba Mitchell on November 19th.

That pitch was rejected.

"They had a movie," explained a perturbed, Arum. "I don't know, I don't understand. I think they're making a big mistake because I think it could've helped that card, but hey, I don't run that network."

So now, Margarito is a fighter without a fight. The news of Klitschko's latest ailment hit them hard.

"We all got down, especially Antonio, because this was a big event," said his co-manager, Sergio Diaz, on Tuesday. "We know it's a big pay-per-view, it's a good opportunity for us to be on a big event like this. We got the news and it just brought all of us down. Especially Antonio, because he had been training so hard, making the weight, the sparring, the time being away from his house and country.

"When we gave him the news it just depressed all of us."

At this time last week, Margarito was in camp preparing for Gomez. While it wasn't the fight he wanted, it was still a significant showcase coming off his watershed win over Cintron.

"I feel proud of that outcome, people were talking about his punch, people were talking about his undefeated record, the big Puerto Rican, and I showed everybody what I was made of," he said last week, through his manager, in South El Monte. "Unfortunately, the bigger fights didn't come after this. We were looking for Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, they didn't come."

It's been a frustrating process for Margarito's management and Top Rank in getting a significant name to sign on the dotted line to face the tough native of Tijuana.

Diaz believes that their promotional company has been diligent in trying to make the lucrative bouts.

"I really do believe them, especially with the money that was offered to Mayweather and Bob came out and spoke about it and the media heard it. So I really think it was something serious and unfortunately Mayweather didn't want to take the fight."

Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Who said he wont? He just fought on Saturday. Is he suppose to fight Williams tomorrow?

He was talking about De La Hoya because it's a bigger fight.



It's cool to be a businessman.

Remember?

[Boofdatruth]

Souljah, we've been over this with DEEVAL. He is a Cotto fan talking about Margarito lol. Many of Cotto's fans have switched just as many of the Mexican fans have swithced to being Pac fans lol. Cotto lost, so he is arguing about what he thinks is the truth in the past. Cotto got knocked out, and some believe he quit. I don't, but many do. Cotto's first opponent that he wasn't stronger than, and he didn't even finish the fight.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

Props to Marg.

Who have Tony fought before Cotto?

Who are the best names on his résumé?



Santos?

Lost.


Williams?

Lost.


Cintron?

Glorified wrestler with a punch.


Clottey?

Got lucky.




Your boy lost to a so called journeyman or worst.


Why would Floyd trifle with either of these chumps?




See?

It's easy to discredit and hate.

[Boofdatruth]

They sure are trying though.


I'm more rational though. I use actual facts.

They use woulda, coulda and shouldas.

Yeah, but you two have to tell us who you think were the best WW's. He didn't have to fight any of those guys. Floyd has been there and done that. He isn't fighting guys strictly because of money, but you guys think he is scared or avoiding guys lol. You guys make it seem like after earning millions, he should fight for anything less. Those guys at WW were given Floyd's titles. They should've been ranked in a legit top 10 rather than taking those titles shots from titles being stripped and knowing that they wouldn't be observed as true champions except by their fans. That is what you guys fail to see. You point to a guy crashing a guy at his own press conference as Floyd avoiding Margs lol. This has happened time after time, beut because you guys don't like Floyd and his mouth, you call him scared, or say he is a coward or avoids fighters. A guy with his talent avoiding or trying to make big money. Oh, he wants the least risk lol. An armchair fan talking about risks lol. Floyd has put his health on the line his whiole career, you arm chair fans haven't. You two guys, one a Cotto fan(JAB) and you a Marg fan both talking about who he didn't fight as if that is some slight to Floyd lol. Your boys were given titles. Cintron, Margs, Williams, Berto, Clottey and 'Judah fighting for titles. Utterly ridiculous. You don't want to see the truth because you are too busy pointing out who Floyd didn't fight in your eyes. Comical.

[Boofdatruth]

Floyd is a broing fighter to watch other then the fact you want to see him get his butt whooped. To the average fan who is not very knowledgeable the art of boxing and moving and trying to lure someone in is not apparent. he is content with winning but not winning in a spectacular fashion. Hatton said it best there was more action in his 3 round fight then in Floyd past 4 fight period. He muffed De la hoya and held repeatedly. He ran from hatton and held although he did knock him out he still didn't exchange with him. 1-2 1-2 mopve step rollhis shoulder it is like watching a mini B Hop. Everyone can't stand watching B hop he is a very boring fighter the division opened up after he lost his title to Taylor. Now the big thing is can pavlik KO a 44 Yr old B Hop? Answer is do you really care? Floyd is great he has tremendous skills but if he was going to retire much to the likes of De la hoya he should have at least gave us the opportunity to see him fight one of the two best before he di. i really could have cared less to see Oscar fight him again if they were both going to fight in the same fashion. i rather see him fight Mosely or Cotto if he really has balls fight margarito. he wont do that he is satisfied with all his millions and his pound 4 pound title in tact and run away. he is a coward in my book.

Why did you even post this pathetic thought? lol.

[TCNŽ SOULJAH]

too busy pointing out who Floyd didn't fight in your eyes.

The 2 names they got are Margarito and Cotto.

And that's their whole argument.



Cotto is an excellent fighter --- but he got ****d the first time he didn't have physical equality or advantage.

Against a guy who people have said is so underskilled he would be outclassed by Cotto.

Where were Cotto's versatility and elite level skills that were guaranteed to prevent that?


And Cotto avoided Floyd @ 140 anyway.