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  • Live Dog
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    #181
    Originally posted by deevel79
    The view on Floyd is the same ANYWHERE u go. Real fans of the sport want to see the best take on the best. They can give 2 ****s about what is a better financial decision for the boxer. Seems as if only Floyd's fans have that mentality. Why is that? I've never seen that excuse made for any other boxer in the history of the sport by his fans.
    What excuse? Floyd fought the best for most of his career and yeah when he got to 147 he went away from that. Nobody is saying he fought the best WW's.

    But, Floyd has done things other fighters haven't. After his controversial win over JLC he gave him a rematch like 10 months down the line. Did Cotto give Mosley a rematch?

    And your Tyson analogy is way off base. People knew Tyson when he was a teenager and liked him because he was a HW with one punch KO power. When Floyd was up and coming and taking out guys in impressive fashion nobody knew who he was because he was fighting at 130. You knock PBF's competition, but Tyson's best win doesn't make Floyd's top 5.

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      #182
      Originally posted by deevel79
      Can u explain the reason of the vote for Cotto/Marg, from the 27 forum members not labled as "haters"????
      have you ever heard of half those names?

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        #183
        Originally posted by Live Dog
        What excuse? Floyd fought the best for most of his career and yeah when he got to 147 he went away from that. Nobody is saying he fought the best WW's.

        But, Floyd has done things other fighters haven't. After his controversial win over JLC he gave him a rematch like 10 months down the line. Did Cotto give Mosley a rematch?

        And your Tyson analogy is way off base. People knew Tyson when he was a teenager and liked him because he was a HW with one punch KO power. When Floyd was up and coming and taking out guys in impressive fashion nobody knew who he was because he was fighting at 130. You knock PBF's competition, but Tyson's best win doesn't make Floyd's top 5.
        What excuse? Floyd fought the best for most of his career and yeah when he got to 147 he went away from that. Nobody is saying he fought the best WW's.

        Thank you! Most Floyd fanatics will never admit that.

        But, Floyd has done things other fighters haven't. After his controversial win over JLC he gave him a rematch like 10 months down the line. Did Cotto give Mosley a rematch?

        Cotto's win over Mosley was more decisive than Floyd's over Castillo. Most people who saw that fight had Castillo winning the fight. Even Shane admitted he was beaten by the better fighter that night

        And your Tyson analogy is way off base. People knew Tyson when he was a teenager and liked him because he was a HW with one punch KO power. When Floyd was up and coming and taking out guys in impressive fashion nobody knew who he was because he was fighting at 130. You knock PBF's competition, but Tyson's best win doesn't make Floyd's top 5.[/QUOTE]

        Pretty much EVERYONE knows who Floyd is since his fights with Gatti and Oscar, yet most casual and diehard fans STILL dont like him. Tyson's DESTRUCTION of the undisputed HW champ Michael Spinks is a better than any of Floyd's wins!
        Last edited by deevel79; 08-06-2008, 10:23 AM.

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          #184
          Originally posted by deevel79
          Pretty much EVERYONE knows who Floyd is since his fight with Gatti, yet most casual and diehard fans STILL dont like him. Tyson's DESTRUCTION of the undisputed HW champ Michael Spinks is a better than any of Floyd's wins!
          Which is my point. Floyd is a great fighter who is actually a good person outside the ring and people hate him. Tyson is a mental midget inside and outside the ring, a convicted rapitst, and bit a man's ear off in a boxing match and people love him. fans = ******

          Spinks is tough for me to consider a great win. He has a couple decision wins over Holmes and no other fights after his loss to Tyson. He was a great LHW but I just don't think he was great HW.

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            #185
            Originally posted by deevel79
            Floyd's against Baldomir, or Cotto's against Margarito?

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            wtf kind of question is this? How about rate Cotto's against Marg to Floyd's against Coralles....coralles was p4p top 5 at the time..He didnt even lay a glove on Floyd...That was a stellar performance compared to Cotto's against Marg.

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              #186
              Originally posted by PrettyBoyFloyd7
              wtf kind of question is this? How about rate Cotto's against Marg to Floyd's against Coralles....coralles was p4p top 5 at the time..He didnt even lay a glove on Floyd...That was a stellar performance compared to Cotto's against Marg.
              Im comparing those 2 fights because they were both fought at WW against much bigger men.

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              • Live Dog
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                #187
                Post 173 homey

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                • deevel79
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Live Dog
                  Post 173 homey
                  Everytime i respond/answer one of your questions, it only gets followed up with more questions. This is my thread, not yours! lol

                  I already answered your first question in #173

                  As for your second question, i feel Cotto's performance against Mosley was just as admirable as his performance against Margarito, although Cotto's offensive display was more impressive in his fight with Margarito. You're under the impression that a fighter has to "win" in order for his performance to be considered "admirable"

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    Everytime i respond/answer one of your questions, it only gets followed up with more questions. This is my thread, not yours! lol

                    I already answered your first question in #173
                    you haven't....unless you consider fighting a bigger man to be the answer

                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    As for your second question, i feel Cotto's performance against Mosley was just as admirable as his performance against Margarito, although Cotto's offensive display was more impressive in his fight with Margarito.
                    First, Cotto's offensive display was greater against Margarito because Marg has NO DEFENSE.

                    Second, a losing performance where a fighter tries to execute a poor game plan and quits is NOT more admirable than a winning performance where the correct game plan is executed.

                    Fight against Mosley > Margarito

                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    You're under the impression that a fighter has to "win" in order for his performance to be considered "admirable"
                    I'm not under the impression that a fighter has to win in order for his performance to be admirable. His performance was admirable just not more so than Floyd's against Baldo.

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                    • Live Dog
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                      #190
                      BTW...Cintron blasted Margarito with some big shots only to fold under the pressure as well. Was his performance admirable?

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