Miguel Cotto: "We Lost 'The Battle' - But Not The War!"

[MANGLER]

Cotto won enough rds to keep the loss from bein an embarrassing one, but it's still a fight where he blasted Tony at will and ended up KO'd.

[Speecha]

That beating that Cotto took from margarito was worse than the beating that Jeff Lacy took form Calzaghe ,i just wonder if it has a lasting affect on Cotto like it did Lacy!?

No beating in boxing history will ever be worse than lacy's beating...calzaghe won 12 rounds 2 nothin and remained untouched. cotto at least was in the fight until round 6/7

plus as someone pointed out cotto is nothing like lacy and can bounce back

i found this on a website, this was the official judges scorecards

Hamada: 96-94 Antonio Margarito

Moretti: 95-95

Roth: 96-94 Antonio Margarito

Now if you add tht up and work it out that is after 10 rounds..so the judges scorecards did not include the 11th round which wudda be 10-7 at the most if he didnt continue to get knocked down

[crillz]

people are failing to realize 1 thing, Miguel Cotto is STILL the best skilled Welterweight today, he STILL is the best fighter to throw on gloves at 147 at the moment and the loss against Margarito doesn't phase that. 1st off as humans we all make mistakes and we all drop the ball sometimes, sometimes the sitution takes a toll on you, sometimes you can't really think too well under a particular scene, sometimes you ain't on point. the 1 common word here is YOU, I say you because it was Miguel who ****ed up, he cost himself the fight.

see what I try to tell people is that it doesn't require any skills to still stand up after getting hit with flush shots, there ain't no skill for that. Tony only just punched at his openings and took punch to punch to punch and kept coming, a strong beard for sure but it doesn't take skills to do, Margarito was never supposed to catch Cotto with all those shots because Cotto was supposed to be moving, he wasn't supposed to stay put and recieve multiple uppercuts, HE ****ed up..

as long as Cotto didn't get caught up on them ropes he was doing well, IMO he was winning the fight until the KD's and just showed to be a superior fighter, a better overall Boxer who just missed some tools that night and it cost him. see for Cotto there's possibilities, he has to switch up and **** at his body ruthlessly, he needs to for 12 rounds keep the fight in the center of the ring, NO corner fighting and he definitley needs to be more offensive. Cotto's camp ****ed him up on this one, his mindset wasn't ready for his biggest test.

Margarito however there's no real chance for improvement, only maybe starting off slow and fast, he can control that but other than that Antonio Margarito is what he is, a 1 dimensional brawler who knows how to punch, there isn't much room for guys like that, they only throw punches and don't give 2 ****s what you throw back, there's no skills, there's no hit and no get hit there's just lets **** out with guys like him. he is a very limited fighter and an on point Boxer will chew his ass up. Cotto only has to be more aggressive, stay off the ropes and chop his body down this time and not hit him where it doesn't hurt, his face.

I'm just saying it doesn't require skills to get punched in ya face and stand up, it don't take skills to just have power. Margarito is a puncher, there's no method to his madness he just comes to fight, if he sees an uppercut opening he takes it, no real science there. bottomline is Margarito is far from smart and with Cotto making so many mistakes, fight defining mistakes, he couldn't bounce back but that was due more to his own ******ity of not going to the body and staying on them ropes and fighting defensively and not so much because Tony is THAT good.

If any of y'all read this I would love to hear y'all opinions, seriously.. IMO Cotto is still the best Welterweight just not on paper, his own mistakes hurt him more than Tony's punches because thats what was allowing Tony to connect so good and not recieve it back harder, the mental game took effect and Cotto dropped the ball Margarito didn't necessarily made him fumble, he just threw punches for 11 rounds, they weren't even smart punches until 6 rounds into the fight when he found that uppercut, it took him 6 rounds to do that much. Cotto was just already ****ing up on his own. July 26th shouldve been a tune up for Cotto because he wasn't mentally ready, his training camp was clearly a BIG problem in this fight.. respect to Margarito but I just don't see him as a better fighter than Cotto, how he won displays it because thats the only way he can win, by brute force and nothing else and while like nights like July 26th it works on MORE nights it doesn't.

[mellow_mood]

cotto didnt make any excuse for the loss.... its margo time now.. so u guys... enjoy the moment!! but dont forget....

[fightingfigs]

Cotto had his nose broken in the 2nd round and was getting buzzed and busted up through out that fight ! He looked like getting stopped 2-3 times in that fight ,look at the state he was in in the last couple of rounds!???
What i am saying is not many come back from a beating like that and are the same fighter!..

He won a crounds 9 and 10

[niceguy45]

I like that. The War. That should be the rematch name.

Then the triology name can be the fans await.

cotto lost and in a rematch would lose much worse, he is not ****** he won't fight margarito anytime soon, he needs like 3-4 fights to improve his skills but he needs to hire another trainer, mayweather sr ???????
cotto would get beat-up once again in a re-match,

[-Antonio-]

I agree with what he said about the body punching. If you watch the fight closely, Marg protected his body very well and let his dome take all the punches. The only thing Cotto could have tried was the jab to the belly.

But I disagree on him saying he tried everything. He didn't try smothering Marg's punches and pivoting inside. Hardly any effective clinching either.

[poeticlsykuac]

people are failing to realize 1 thing, Miguel Cotto is STILL the best skilled Welterweight today, he STILL is the best fighter to throw on gloves at 147 at the moment and the loss against Margarito doesn't phase that. 1st off as humans we all make mistakes and we all drop the ball sometimes, sometimes the sitution takes a toll on you, sometimes you can't really think too well under a particular scene, sometimes you ain't on point. the 1 common word here is YOU, I say you because it was Miguel who ****ed up, he cost himself the fight.

see what I try to tell people is that it doesn't require any skills to still stand up after getting hit with flush shots, there ain't no skill for that. Tony only just punched at his openings and took punch to punch to punch and kept coming, a strong beard for sure but it doesn't take skills to do, Margarito was never supposed to catch Cotto with all those shots because Cotto was supposed to be moving, he wasn't supposed to stay put and recieve multiple uppercuts, HE ****ed up..

as long as Cotto didn't get caught up on them ropes he was doing well, IMO he was winning the fight until the KD's and just showed to be a superior fighter, a better overall Boxer who just missed some tools that night and it cost him. see for Cotto there's possibilities, he has to switch up and **** at his body ruthlessly, he needs to for 12 rounds keep the fight in the center of the ring, NO corner fighting and he definitley needs to be more offensive. Cotto's camp ****ed him up on this one, his mindset wasn't ready for his biggest test.

Margarito however there's no real chance for improvement, only maybe starting off slow and fast, he can control that but other than that Antonio Margarito is what he is, a 1 dimensional brawler who knows how to punch, there isn't much room for guys like that, they only throw punches and don't give 2 ****s what you throw back, there's no skills, there's no hit and no get hit there's just lets **** out with guys like him. he is a very limited fighter and an on point Boxer will chew his ass up. Cotto only has to be more aggressive, stay off the ropes and chop his body down this time and not hit him where it doesn't hurt, his face.

I'm just saying it doesn't require skills to get punched in ya face and stand up, it don't take skills to just have power. Margarito is a puncher, there's no method to his madness he just comes to fight, if he sees an uppercut opening he takes it, no real science there. bottomline is Margarito is far from smart and with Cotto making so many mistakes, fight defining mistakes, he couldn't bounce back but that was due more to his own ******ity of not going to the body and staying on them ropes and fighting defensively and not so much because Tony is THAT good.

If any of y'all read this I would love to hear y'all opinions, seriously.. IMO Cotto is still the best Welterweight just not on paper, his own mistakes hurt him more than Tony's punches because thats what was allowing Tony to connect so good and not recieve it back harder, the mental game took effect and Cotto dropped the ball Margarito didn't necessarily made him fumble, he just threw punches for 11 rounds, they weren't even smart punches until 6 rounds into the fight when he found that uppercut, it took him 6 rounds to do that much. Cotto was just already ****ing up on his own. July 26th shouldve been a tune up for Cotto because he wasn't mentally ready, his training camp was clearly a BIG problem in this fight.. respect to Margarito but I just don't see him as a better fighter than Cotto, how he won displays it because thats the only way he can win, by brute force and nothing else and while like nights like July 26th it works on MORE nights it doesn't.

I read this whole thing and seen nothing but favoritism. Cotto is the better boxer, Margarito is the better fighter. Stop using the word fighter at will, I don't call Mayweather a fighter either, I call him a great boxer.

Cotto is extremely talented fought the fight of his life, but he got his ass kicked and lost during his best performance. Accept it buddy, Cotto was losing on 2 of the 3 score cards and tied on the third. Cotto would have lost this fight if it hit the cards even without the 2 knock downs. When you are so scared of the other fighter that he has to jog to catch up you got problems.

I will post a post I wrote in another thread read it tell me what you think. This is my analysis of the fight, so I don't think Cotto could change much to win, Margarito just has the style to beat him. Just like Williams could beat Margarito again. Just like Forrest and Winky were to Mosley.

[poeticlsykuac]

What a lot of people don't realize is that Margarito used his strengths and tools and they eventually won him the fight over Cotto's strength and tools.

Margarito obviously realizes he has a great chin by this point in his career, so he covered his body and threw a lot of shots to the body in just the first 2 rounds(I counted just over 30 body punches THROWN to the body, not necessarily landed). Margarito protected his body moving his elbows in and out well.

Cotto's chin did not nor will it ever match up to Margarito's, if they were to exchange Cotto would have lost in 4 rounds, that was obvious in the second.

Cotto stood on his left hook in the first round, but he got dinged early and didn't want anything to do with Margarito in an exchange, the second round proved this further.

Margarito constantly throws punches with power from all angles, he will hit you with shots you don't see coming. Look at the first minute of the first round vs. the last two minutes. This changed Cotto's game plan early on, he realized shots were going to come whether he was standing in front of him or not, so why stand in front of a bigger stronger man? He took a page out of Mayweather's book but he is no Mayweather.

Cotto didn't really land to much clean in the first round, he did land but nothing significant enough to give him the confidence to stand in there. While Margarito landed the unnoticed to the announcers hard body punches.

At the beginning of the first 3 rounds in the first minute Cotto tried standing in but he got stung each time and went to his stick and move category.

Margarito also put a little distance between himself and Cotto when Cotto was on the ropes, which negated clinching. If he clinched it would have looked ugly in that he would have had to jump towards him to clinch. Margarito's upper cuts didn't come in flurries till midway in the fight when Cotto was tired. The few times that Cotto tried to clinch Margarito freed a hand and just continued to throw punches till Cotto let go and covered up.

You know when he started moving away from his strength, his patented left hook and towards Margarito's stronger right he was in trouble so in the first two rounds. Cotto complained in the third round about a low blow on the hip, I had never seen him complain in a pleading way like that, I knew he was scared at that point.

By the 7th round Cotto was doubling over from every left hook to the body, and it was just a matter of time before Margarito took him out.

[KingTito]

I don't think this fight has ruined Cotto at all. If anything he will be more motivated and come back stronger. How you come back from defeat is the true mark of a great fighter.