I would have Williams above Margarito. Cotto will not be on there.
Pavlik would be lower, probably 8 or 9.
To easy_mas, Rafa could have won his battles with Vasquez, there was nothing between the two, but as Vasquez holds two Wins over him he should be just one place above him. I think 5 and 6 is ok for the two.
The same could be said about JMM as he could easily have won his last fight with Pac. That's why i have a hard placement for Calzaghe as i believe RJJ will beat him.
I know Rafa got a good war with Israel but Mijares is really good fighter. He does everything pretty well defensive and offensive he got all the things right but he his power is average.
Could you imagine a fight going toe2toe without headclash or clinching just slipping nad punching in a closer range. That is how talented both Mijares and Navarro where that night.
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Kelly Pavlik
7. Antonio Margarito
8. Christian Mijares
9. Rafael Marquez
10. Miguel Cotto
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Kelly Pavlik
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Antonio Margarito
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Christian Mijares
10. Ivan Calderon
mijares and calderon should be before vasquez, raf-marquez.
cotto should be off the list and if you are feeling generous u could put margarito as #10.
honestly i wouldn't put margarito on the p4p list because he's just not that skilled, but he could go on a different list like say.... best chin or something like that.
mijares and calderon should be before vasquez, raf-marquez.
cotto should be off the list and if you are feeling generous u could put margarito as #10.
honestly i wouldn't put margarito on the p4p list because he's just not that skilled, but he could go on a different list like say.... best chin or something like that.
the problem is it more of publicity and house-hold name.
many of the lower class dont get enought exposer so people know who he beat.
Margarito earned his p4p spot but he still got alot to go. He wont be lasting long in there if he goes out muscling fighters all the time
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Israel Vazquez
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Kelly Pavlik
6. Cristian Mijares
7. Antonio Margarito
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Miguel Cotto
10. Arthur Abraham
Close to the top ten:
11. Calderon
12. Hatton
13. Williams
14. Wlad
15. Hopkins
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Kelly Pavlik
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Rafael Marquez
7. Antonio Margarito
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Christian Mijares
10. Ivan Calderon
Cotto got KO'd. He has to be off the list. I'm not even sure Margarito makes it on yet ahead of someone like Arthur Abraham.
Do you guys really think Cotto should be completely off the list?
I think it's a bit harsh since i had him at P4P #3 before the fight, and since he controlled the first half of the fight.
If you get KO'd cleanly, you're off the list. Cotto was losing the fight on points before the 11th round anyway. No credit due for winning half of a fight.
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