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  • DLT
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    The Fans And Media Have To Be Reasonable

    PART 1

    There hate for Floyd is so strong that they still overlook the size factor. Comparing Floyd to these guys is apples & oranges but no one ever talks about it. Even worst they admit it without even knowing it. Floyd is not a WW at all. I hate it when people compare him to guys like Hearns & SRL and they say that they would kill Floyd. Manny Steward use to do it all the time. How fair is that? Its so wrong because you know there strictly thinking of a WW SRL & Hearns vs a WW Floyd. Hearns & SRL were huge WW's in there first division while Floyd is in his 4th division and clearly way smaller then them. If you want to compare them then do it in a P4P sense. Compare them at WW to Floyd at 130 and then Floyd definatly stacks up and may even be better. He also clearly moved up in weight way better then those guys ever did. Thats how you have to look at it.

    The reason why I say that guys admit it without even knowing it is because there comments. A guy like Manny will rip Floyd but then he turns right around and says that no one is beating Floyd except for a "huge" WW. That tells you that he thinks that no one can beat Floyd with skills but there so huge that they can do it. Haters on here tonight are saying that Floyd doesnt want to get into the ring with those 2 animals. Why? Your saying that because they look so much naturally bigger & stronger then him. Cintron would always say in interviews that Floyd isnt even a real WW but in the next sentence he would challange him to a fight. Williams would always say that Cotto and those guys always call out Floyd because they know he doesnt even belong at the weight and is too small but then he would turn right around and call Floyd out.

    Again, were talking about a guy in his 4th division "unaturally" going against guys in there 1st division who are super huge at the weight. How can you rip him? I say unaturally because he only moved up to fight Oscar and everyone knows that. He was not big enough at LW to move to 140 and he was definatly not big enough at 140 to move to WW. Lets not even talk about 154 because thats a joke. He's getting penalized because of his talent. I say that because no one else in the sport can move up unaturally but he's so skilled that he can do it and when he does then people automatically say that he should fight so & so or he's a punk. How can you guys fall for that? Again, why would any WW be scared of Floyd? Dont you think its strange that he's the #1 guy in the world and none of those WW's are hesitant to fight him? They all would jump because they dont think he is big enough to compete with them. They think he wont put on weight after the weigh-in, he cant hurt them, he will have to run from all of them, there power can hurt him, he's by far the biggest pay day they will get, and he's the #1 name so its a huge win. Why would they not want to fight him?

    Now let Floyd be in his 1st divison and come into the ring at a 160 pounds and looking natural. Those guys would not be jumping to get in the ring with him. It changes everything. Then its like you guys think people are brave when they fight someone. Why is Cotto so brave for fighting Margarito when he's the same size and Margarito is a slow guy with recent losses? Why would Margarito fear Cotto when he hasnt fought any big guys and is the same size at him. I mean look at all the WW's. Who's scared of who? Williams, Cotto, Magarito, Clottey, Quintana, Collazo, and so on will fight anyone because there the same size. Its no different then Floyd cleaning out 130. Do people on here seriously think that Floyd doesnt fight these guys if he was in his 1st divison right now and was the same size as them? He would kill them. Only forgetful people would think that Margarito is more of a threat P4P then Chico was at 130. Chico was decapitating everyone and had a huge weight & height advantage on Floyd but he didnt hesitate because he was strong at that weight. Cotto mad Paulie look like a boy but if you watch Paulie fight, he clearly looks bigger then Floyd. So does N'dou and alot of the guys at 140. Thats where Floyd is supposed to be at and they know that.
  • DLT
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    PART 2

    The bottom line is that Floyd can beat all those WW's because he's that skilled but he and his team know they are taking a huge risk with the size. They know that he could lose just because guys like Cotto & Margarito are just flat out to big & strong for him. He already gets ripped for the way he's fought lately even though he's coming into the ring at a 15 pound disadvantage. Yet when he was at 130 he had mad KO's, he stopped Hatton, stopped Gatti, nearly stopped Zab, stopped Mitchell, stopped N'Dou, stopped Bruseles, and dropped Chop twice. My point is that if he fights someone even close to his size then its a different fight. He can be totally offensive but at WW it all changes because they come into the ring with the 15 pound weight advantage and its there natural weight. They can walk through his shots at time so he has to back pedal all night. Again, look at Margarito when he went up in weight just 1 time. He loss to Santos. Now imagine him, Cotto, Clottey, Cintron, and Williams in there 3rd or 4th weight class. They would look like garbage but Floyd gets ripped non stop. He's not Pac. He doesnt move up and is instantly the biggest strongest guy there. Floyd is always the smallest and the weakest but he can still win because of his skill level.

    The bottom line is toinght is the perfect example. Cotto was easily outboxing Margarito and Floyd is a way better boxer then Cotto. His skill is far superior to Margarito and unlike Cotto, he has a defense. The problem is Margarito will be so strong naturally and litteraly compared to Floyd that he may just be able to walk through anything Floyd throws and hurt Floyd with some shots. Its not fair. Margarito knows it, Cotto knows it, and they love it. They love the fact that the media or fans dont realize that. I think Floyd would fight them if people recognized the disadvantage and would give him extra credit for it but they dont. Not only will they not give him extra credit but they will got the complete opposite. They will say that he has to fight them or he's a *****. Nevermind the fact that there picking on a little guy from 130, who moved up unatually and comes into the ring at 146 while there at 162 and in there 1st division. Thats ok for them and its a totally fair matchup. That **** is a joke and I will never get it. I keep saying that I would love to see Floyd fight guys like Holt, Torres, Paulie, and the other guys at 140. Think at how natural he will look and how exciting he would look? He would be so offensive and everyone would be amazed by his skills but WW changes everything. He's not Oscar. Oscar came from 130 but was huge and always gained alot of natural weight between the weigh-in. Floyd cant do it.

    I still think he may come back and fight Margarito because he's still that good but it probably will be a boring fight because thats how he has to fight against these huge guys while they can just fight there normal fight. He'll never get to fight like he did at LW & 140 because these guys are just too big and he's too small. I was just reading articles when he was at 135 and the writers were saying that Floyd will have to stay here his whole career because his body just doesnt have the frame to move up. He just doesnt put on the weight. Guys like Chico & Castillo were way bigger then him when he fought them yet he was at 147 while they were still at LW even though everyone would tell you that they were still naturally bigger then him at the time. Its his skill set and thats it. If the guys at WW were at 140 then it would be totally different because all of them would be 10 pounds smaller and Floyd would only be outweighed by 7 pounds while feeling explosive at that weight but at WW those same guys gain 10 pounds while Floyd only gains 1. They were already alot bigger then him at 140 but now its like there 2 weight classes natually bigger and people dont want to admit it. If people started giving him the credit for fighting those huge guys then he would do it but they wont

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    • MANGLER
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      PBF is the one who tries to compare himself to ATG fighters and attracts hatred for it. Those guys took on all comers, except SRL wit Pryor to a degree. Bottom line is 2 guys PBF retired rather than face fought an epic and it's doubtful he'll come back to face the winner, even tho he'd be favored to beat him.

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      • Horus
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        Originally posted by DLT
        PART 2

        The bottom line is that Floyd can beat all those WW's because he's that skilled but he and his team know they are taking a huge risk with the size. They know that he could lose just because guys like Cotto & Margarito are just flat out to big & strong for him. He already gets ripped for the way he's fought lately even though he's coming into the ring at a 15 pound disadvantage. Yet when he was at 130 he had mad KO's, he stopped Hatton, stopped Gatti, nearly stopped Zab, stopped Mitchell, stopped N'Dou, stopped Bruseles, and dropped Chop twice. My point is that if he fights someone even close to his size then its a different fight. He can be totally offensive but at WW it all changes because they come into the ring with the 15 pound weight advantage and its there natural weight. They can walk through his shots at time so he has to back pedal all night. Again, look at Margarito when he went up in weight just 1 time. He loss to Santos. Now imagine him, Cotto, Clottey, Cintron, and Williams in there 3rd or 4th weight class. They would look like garbage but Floyd gets ripped non stop. He's not Pac. He doesnt move up and is instantly the biggest strongest guy there. Floyd is always the smallest and the weakest but he can still win because of his skill level.

        The bottom line is toinght is the perfect example. Cotto was easily outboxing Margarito and Floyd is a way better boxer then Cotto. His skill is far superior to Margarito and unlike Cotto, he has a defense. The problem is Margarito will be so strong naturally and litteraly compared to Floyd that he may just be able to walk through anything Floyd throws and hurt Floyd with some shots. Its not fair. Margarito knows it, Cotto knows it, and they love it. They love the fact that the media or fans dont realize that. I think Floyd would fight them if people recognized the disadvantage and would give him extra credit for it but they dont. Not only will they not give him extra credit but they will got the complete opposite. They will say that he has to fight them or he's a *****. Nevermind the fact that there picking on a little guy from 130, who moved up unatually and comes into the ring at 146 while there at 162 and in there 1st division. Thats ok for them and its a totally fair matchup. That **** is a joke and I will never get it. I keep saying that I would love to see Floyd fight guys like Holt, Torres, Paulie, and the other guys at 140. Think at how natural he will look and how exciting he would look? He would be so offensive and everyone would be amazed by his skills but WW changes everything. He's not Oscar. Oscar came from 130 but was huge and always gained alot of natural weight between the weigh-in. Floyd cant do it.

        I still think he may come back and fight Margarito because he's still that good but it probably will be a boring fight because thats how he has to fight against these huge guys while they can just fight there normal fight. He'll never get to fight like he did at LW & 140 because these guys are just too big and he's too small. I was just reading articles when he was at 135 and the writers were saying that Floyd will have to stay here his whole career because his body just doesnt have the frame to move up. He just doesnt put on the weight. Guys like Chico & Castillo were way bigger then him when he fought them yet he was at 147 while they were still at LW even though everyone would tell you that they were still naturally bigger then him at the time. Its his skill set and thats it. If the guys at WW were at 140 then it would be totally different because all of them would be 10 pounds smaller and Floyd would only be outweighed by 7 pounds while feeling explosive at that weight but at WW those same guys gain 10 pounds while Floyd only gains 1. They were already alot bigger then him at 140 but now its like there 2 weight classes natually bigger and people dont want to admit it. If people started giving him the credit for fighting those huge guys then he would do it but they wont

        Cotto cant even make it through his 2nd weight class undefeated let alone 5 weight classes

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