iron mike tyson vs Muhammad "The Greatest" Ali -- who will win

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  • Da Iceman
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    #31
    if a past prime ali could sit back on the ropes and let shavers, foreman, frazier, and lyle pound away on him and not get knocked out then what makes you think tyson could ko a prime ali. tysons handspeed and footwork doesnt compare to ali's. he wasnt a master at cutting off the ring, and he didnt press as hard as frazier. yea tyson beat fraziers son in 30 seconds, but thats not smokin joe. he didnt have the heart and chin that he did. ali's jab and constant talking would frustrate tyson and make him give up, plus tyson wouldnt be able to keep up with ali's dancing for 7 or 8 rounds. i see tyson getting ko'd in 5 after alot of missed shots and no stamina

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    • Yogi
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      #32
      Originally posted by GasPed
      For those of you who don't remember, Biggs was about as close to Ali in terms of style and skills as anyone ever was...
      Pfft...Biggs was a known drug addict going into the Tyson fight and was fed to Tyson before he was really ready, just so the Duvas could cash in on their investment in him. ****, Biggs was getting beaten up & bloodied by David Bey, of all people, just previous to facing Tyson, so...Wait, I suppose Francisco Damiani or Gary Mason would've beaten Ali as well, I guess hey, seeing as how they both stopped Biggs around that same time as Tyson did?

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      • Truth
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        #33
        Originally posted by Mr. Untouchable
        Ali would have danced around mike for the first 3 rounds poppin him with the jab and tying him up until he felt mike starting to get tired and then he would step it up hitting mikes one dumbmensional ass with everything in the book until tyson quits like he does when he knows he can't win.... remember Tyson was the youngest but Ali is "The Greatest".....
        Less talk about a better matchup who would win between sonny liston and young george foreman?
        See most people forgot how Tyson used to be. A prime Tyson was not one dimensional and could adapt.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Soundtraveler
          Ali would have no problem with Iron Mike - anyone who ever watched Ali and watched Tyson knows this.

          I think even Tyson would say the same thing if asked.
          You all know Tyson has no stamina, never has...
          I think he did in his prime. He went 12 rounds a couple of times.

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          • Yogi
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            #35
            Originally posted by 23_THE TRUTH_34
            See most people forgot how Tyson used to be. A prime Tyson was not one dimensional and could adapt.
            Tyson didn't adapt very well against a past his prime version of James Tillis, who was probably the closest in style to what Ali would present to Mike. In fact, I thought Tyson barely sqeaked out a decision over Tillis in that one (95-94 was my card for Tyson), as Tillis certainly had the better of things over the last half of the fight when Tyson did very little combination punching and was not hard to find with Tillis' jabs, combinations, and uppercuts.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Yogi
              Tyson didn't adapt very well against a past his prime version of James Tillis, who was probably the closest in style to what Ali would present to Mike. In fact, I thought Tyson barely sqeaked out a decision over Tillis in that one (95-94 was my card for Tyson), as Tillis certainly had the better of things over the last half of the fight when Tyson did very little combination punching and was not hard to find with Tillis' jabs, combinations, and uppercuts.
              Well, Tyrell Biggs had a similar style to Ali. My whole point was Tyson was a great fighter in his prime and people shouldn't forget that. Some seem to forget Tyson wasn't always the Tyson who lost to McBride.

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              • Yogi
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                #37
                Originally posted by 23_THE TRUTH_34
                Well, Tyrell Biggs had a similar style to Ali. My whole point was Tyson was a great fighter in his prime and people shouldn't forget that. Some seem to forget Tyson wasn't always the Tyson who lost to McBride.
                I already discussed Biggs in the previous post to that one, so check it out if you want and comment on it if you can.

                And sure, Tyson was a great fighter in his own right, but some people think he was indestructable machine and without flaws during his "prime", which was simply not the case...He had his flaws which were apparent in some of his "prime" fights (which were most noticable against fighters who relied on a jab, movement and smart clinching on the inside...Tillis, Ribalta, Tucker, etc.), and obviously Buster Douglas proved he was not at all indestructable.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Yogi
                  I already discussed Biggs in the previous post to that one, so check it out if you want and comment on it if you can.

                  And sure, Tyson was a great fighter in his own right, but some people think he was indestructable machine and without flaws during his "prime", which was simply not the case...He had his flaws which were apparent in some of his "prime" fights (which were most noticable against fighters who relied on a jab, movement and smart clinching on the inside...Tillis, Ribalta, Tucker, etc.), and obviously Buster Douglas proved he was not at all indestructable.
                  Oh I agree he certaintly had flaws...

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                  • Pugnacious_Z
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                    #39
                    tyson had very good endurance in his prime, norton demolished ali in their first fight, tysin beats ali late by points or TKO

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                    • Da Iceman
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                      #40
                      oh please.....

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