The Greatness of Kostya Tszyu

[boxaholic]

I agree that it created a bs legacy for Hatton, but it didn't affect his that much. To see how great he was, just look at where Hatton's win over Tsyu has taken him.

I love Kostya for KOing Zab early in Zab's career. I dislike him because I paid 2 tickets for $300.00 to go to this fight. It was one of the first fights I went to. My ex was taking her sweet time getting ready for me. We got in our seats midway through the first round. When the second round started the Zab fans started talking **** and then it happened the Brooklyn shuffle. I need to see that again. The Zab crew got crazy. That is when I fell for Kostya and dumped my ex shortly after. Him degrading himself to make Hatton a fake legend deminished him.

[Rkicards]

Died when he didn't get of his stool against Hatton in the final round.
You got 1 fn round to go in your career why sit it out. No matter how great everybody thinks he is that is the last image I have in my mind him bowing down to Fn Ricky Hatton. It created a bs legacy for Hatton and ruined Tszyu great reign.

Hatton's win over a 35 year old inactive shot Tszyu was as much an achievement as Danny Williams beating tyson.

[Left Hook Tua]

Kostya Tszyu-Vernon Forrest Amateurs

Has everyone seen Kostya utterly take Vernon Forrest to school in the Amatuer World Championships?? He boxed his ears off. Complete clinic.

Kostya is definitely severely underrated around most boxing circles.

[poeticlsykuac]

Sheez he was way quick(agile), and had fast hands. Around 6:50 the announcer said tszyu had lightning fast hands, lol never hear that before, but he had narley hand speed. Tszyu was nasty in that fight, Mayweather would have a lot harder time then people realize.

[Left Hook Tua]

okay......

i think we now have 3 threads with floyd-kostya arguments going on in it.

we don't always have to talk about floyd-kostya.

curious to know how people feel about say cotto and tszyu or maybe even mosley against tszyu if he didn't jump straight to welterweight.

oscar against tszyu would've been nice as well.

obviously the timeline doesn't really match so prime vs. prime at 140 your thoughts?

[Left Hook Tua]

Sheez he was way quick(agile), and had fast hands. Around 6:50 the announcer said tszyu had lightning fast hands, lol never hear that before, but he had narley hand speed. Tszyu was nasty in that fight, Mayweather would have a lot harder time then people realize.

when he moved to australia they had him start focusing more on power and ko's. slowed him down a bit.

plus people remember what's fresh in their mind.

floyd is still in his prime and our last memory of him was of that.

people forget that when kostya fought zab and sharmba he was already 32. obviously he wasn't as fast or nimble as when he was in his 20's.

[KabukiJoe]

i unerstand the point you are making but we need to decide which Joe Cortez? the one who stopped Hatton infighting against Floyd or the one who let Bhop do exactly the same thing with Calzaghe?
Thats the thing about Cortez now, he is shot and too inconsistent for your point to be fully valid my friend.

...that's a good point but I didn't bother watching Calzaghe/Hopkins...maybe Cortez is pro USA fighters and shows them bias?...that would be the "consistency" in this case...


Kabuki Joe

[KabukiJoe]

I will say this much Floyd never stuck around to find out. He was gone in a hurry, I personally don't think he wanted anything to do with Tsyzu. Tsyzu took down boxers that had faster hands and more power(Judah) and Mitchell was a slick intelligent boxer.

Roger Mayweather shared a lot of similarities with PBF's style, obviously he trained him. Raising his left shoulder, head and body movement, fighting going backwards, fighting in spurts, etc. Tszyu's left hooks and jab still found him, with the occasional right. I think that the Tszyu-Mayweather fight is a good example of how it could have went. Obviously PBF is more talented and more intelligent, but PBF's style is meant to endure age, speed only helps it isn't something he relies on. PBF would be on his bike just the same, tying you up on the inside. He would probably fight a very similar fight with a better offense. I just don't see Tszyu having the trouble hitting PBF that everyone else sees.

In some ways I would see similarities between the DLH-PBF fight. I feel that Tszyu was a better boxer then DLH, he was more patient. He was more economic with his punches and outside of the Phillips fight always well prepared. Tszyu had a better pressure style against a slick boxer then DLH.

I don't know that Tszyu would win, but of all the fighters in recent memory I would say that Tszyu has one of the better chances at winning PBF.

...the other similarity between Roger and Floyd is "blood"...they are blood realitives...and if Roger sat on the stool against Chavez, Floyd will do the same...unless he stays retired..."quitting" is in Floyd's blood...


Kabuki Joe

[IMDAZED]

okay......

i think we now have 3 threads with floyd-kostya arguments going on in it.

we don't always have to talk about floyd-kostya.

curious to know how people feel about say cotto and tszyu or maybe even mosley against tszyu if he didn't jump straight to welterweight.

oscar against tszyu would've been nice as well.

obviously the timeline doesn't really match so prime vs. prime at 140 your thoughts?

Oscar was very smart - or, at least his handlers were.

At 130, he didn't fight the best in the division.

At 135, he didn't fight the best in the division.

At 140, he didn't fight the best in the division.

He finally did at 147 and arguably lost every fight to top competition.

Tszyu WAS avoided but not by Floyd. I think, in fact, he really wanted that fight.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Prime Tszyu would've knocked Fatton out cold

i actually agree with you but you are only saying that because kostya is russian born (hes an aussie citizen now)