Joe Calzaghe = Massachusetts Senator John Kerry

**bsrizpac** · 07-16-2008, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Mizzou

Talk about a flip flopper. Jones is great, Jones is shot, Jones is great again. I want Kelly Pavlik, Kelly Pavlik does not deserve to fight me, Kelly Pavlik may be my next fight. Joe is a toolshed, overrated, you know the American stance. One thing is for sure the guy is like every other boxer/entrepenuer; if he can make a **** ton of money boxing, they guy is gonna keep doing it. This retirement talk after Roy is "rubbish".

Only Calzaghe's fans on this page have been pathetic enough to let this flip flopping slide.

**abadger** · 07-16-2008, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Mizzou

Talk about a flip flopper. Jones is great, Jones is shot, Jones is great again. I want Kelly Pavlik, Kelly Pavlik does not deserve to fight me, Kelly Pavlik may be my next fight. Joe is a toolshed, overrated, you know the American stance. One thing is for sure the guy is like every other boxer/entrepenuer; if he can make a **** ton of money boxing, they guy is gonna keep doing it. This retirement talk after Roy is "rubbish".

I think this is likely true. Don't be too hard on Joe though, he is after all a boxer and (luckily) not a Senator.

**Run** · 07-16-2008, 08:17 PM

He's called Roy out for years. lol.

But dude come on, that was lame how he never wanted to leave Wales.

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**abadger** · 07-16-2008, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by RunW/Knives

He's called Roy out for years. lol.

But dude come on, that was lame how he never wanted to leave Wales.

Calzaghe's problem was that he was the champ of 168 which equalled paydays and to pursue a fight with Jones he would have had to give that up and move to LHW where he would hold no belt, had no US name and would thus have little or no bargaining power. Also, the prospect of facing Jones would have been the only compelling reason to take this course (no-one knew Tarver and Johnson were that good until relatively recently) and with no bargaining power, the fight might never have materialised. Its not a perfevt scenario, but its pretty understandable. I actually think that for his own career he probably took exactly the right course. Had he moved up and say beat Tarver and Johnson I'm pretty sure those two would now be written of as journeymen, and I bet people would say he ducked Lacy and Kessler!

Of course, had he moved up it might very well have transpired that Roy would have faced Joe in 2003 instead of Tarver, and just imagine that scenario if you will!

**bsrizpac** · 07-16-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by abadger

Calzaghe's problem was that he was the champ of 168 which equalled paydays and to pursue a fight with Jones he would have had to give that up and move to LHW where he would hold no belt, had no US name and would thus have little or no bargaining power. Also, the prospect of facing Jones would have been the only compelling reason to take this course (no-one knew Tarver and Johnson were that good until relatively recently) and with no bargaining power, the fight might never have materialised. Its not a perfevt scenario, but its pretty understandable. I actually think that for his own career he probably took exactly the right course. Had he moved up and say beat Tarver and Johnson I'm pretty sure those two would now be written of as journeymen, and I bet people would say he ducked Lacy and Kessler!

Of course, had he moved up it might very well have transpired that Roy would have faced Joe in 2003 instead of Tarver, and just imagine that scenario if you will!

Yeah, I'm sure you've jerked it to that thought of that one....lol

**abadger** · 07-16-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by bsrizpac

Yeah, I'm sure you've jerked it to that thought of that one....lol

I sometimes fantasise about it, but am yet to actually **********. I mean he'd probably be undisputed P4P #1 which I would find tremendously exciting.

**Kris Silver** · 07-16-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by abadger

I sometimes fantasise about it, but am yet to actually **********. I mean he'd probably be undisputed P4P #1 which I would find tremendously exciting.

I clean my Calzaghe photo frame with spunk. Gets a great shine.

True story.

**bsrizpac** · 07-16-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by KrisSilver

I clean my Calzaghe photo frame with spunk. Gets a great shine.

True story.

Do they bottle that and sell it?

**Kris Silver** · 07-16-2008, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by bsrizpac

Do they bottle that and sell it?

No, my penis works just fine.

Joe Calzaghe = Massachusetts Senator John Kerry