Wladimir v some oldtimers

[abadger]

Hes right though, if you look at his fights with frazier, norton and ali, he didint pace himself, he was content on just battering the **** out of you until you gave into his monsterous power, if that didint happen, well, see Ali. As he got older he began to think more which led to him pacing his workrate alot better with more percise shots.

Technically and tactically better I can live with, but not just better.

Comeback foreman wasn't actually that good, whereas prime Foreman was.

[El Jesus]

People on here often say prime tyson would have a tough fight against wlad but i dont think so, 1985 mike tysons punch out version of tyson would weave under the jab and throw something vicious to the body or the head, unless wlad pulled a quick tillis, tyson would end that fight within 3, however any post 1991 tyson would likely lose just based on his inability to give a **** and train properly and use head movement.

[Dynamite Kid]

People on here often say prime tyson would have a tough fight against wlad but i dont think so, 1985 mike tysons punch out version of tyson would weave under the jab and throw something vicious to the body or the head, unless wlad pulled a quick tillis, tyson would end that fight within 3, however any post 1991 tyson would likely lose just based on his inability to give a **** and train properly and use head movement.

u are spot on here remember him slipping inside Carl Williams jab and then unloading a huge left hook on his chin ,great shot

the old Tyson lost his foot speed IMO he looked completely shot against Lewis and u could see that after 1 minute of the fight he just did not have the speed of foot to shuffle foward quickly and close the range