Mayweather was never a WBC WW linear champion. Neither was Baldomir.

[Ray*]

There isnt even any sensible post about boxingscene anymore, its becoming sad.

[BMWM3P]

This site has gone to hell......thanks guys.

Just because we choose not to ride Floyd's ****, like you do.

[Ras44]

No because Shane Mosley and Vernon Forrest was rated #1 and #2 at Welterweight and when the top 2 people face each other they fill the linear vacany.

Or if you want to go with the "You have to unify the main 3 to become champ" then it was filled with Mayorga and Spinks and Spinks becoming the linear champ.

1. That's called being arbitrary. The reality is that the line was broken when Leonard vacated. The #1 and #2 guys can fight any day and it doesn't make up for the fact that the belt was vacated, and they won a vacant belt.

2. Again, if you unify all the championships, you become an undisputed champ, not a linear champ.

[Ray*]

When you have 3 of the 4 major belts then you're tag as the linear champion of a division, So we can work it out from there.

[Ras44]

There isnt even any sensible post about boxingscene anymore, its becoming sad.

On the contrary, I'm explaining, factually, why the boxing press and sanctioning bodies have been selling us a fallacious idea. If the line is broken, it's broken, period.

[Fox McCloud]

The linear championship needs to have some sort of criteria for reestablishment in the case of a retired fighter or a fighter moving up.

I mean, really, this logic means Lennox Lewis was not the linear champion after killing the who's who of the division for a decade. He beat Holyfield, Tyson, Mercer, Bowe (mentally, considering Bowe absolutely refused to face him), and many more.

Additionally, Roy Jones Jr. moved up to 168, vacating the IBF belt, so what you are saying is that Jermain Taylor was NOT the linear champion, even though he beat Bernard Hopkins, who was the owner of the 5 major belts (Ring, IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO), and even beat the WBA regular champion in his 20 defenses.

In the literal sense of the word, a linear championship goes to hell when retirement or division jumping happens, but if we want the phrase "linear championship" to have an applicability or relevance to the sport, we need to come up with some way of using and reestablishing it in the case of either of the formerly mentioned events.

[Easy-E]

Just because we choose not to ride Floyd's ****, like you do.

No, it's because you are an ignorant nuthugging idiot who knows absolutly nothing about the sport.

[Ras44]

When you have 3 of the 4 major belts then you're tag as the linear champion of a division, So we can work it out from there.

When you have cleaned a division, and claim all the titles, you are the undisputed champion.

Linear, as in line, is about defeating the guy who was the champion. If the line has been broken, then you can't milk that idea anymore.

There hasn't been a WBC linear champion since Leonard retired, unless you want to make up for the fact that the line was broken by arbitrary methods, because you desperately want to sell the "linear champion" idea. Whether it's a box off between #1 or #2, or someone claiming all the titles.

[Easy-E]

The linear championship needs to have some sort of criteria for reestablishment in the case of a retired fighter or a fighter moving up.

I mean, really, this logic means Lennox Lewis was not the linear champion after killing the who's who of the division for a decade. He beat Holyfield, Tyson, Mercer, Bowe (mentally, considering Bowe absolutely refused to face him), and many more.

Additionally, Roy Jones Jr. moved up to 168, vacating the IBF belt, so what you are saying is that Jermain Taylor was NOT the linear champion, even though he beat Bernard Hopkins, who was the owner of the 5 major belts (Ring, IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO), and even beat the WBA regular champion in his 20 defenses.

In the literal sense of the word, a linear championship goes to hell when retirement or division jumping happens, but if we want the phrase "linear championship" to have an applicability or relevance to the sport, we need to come up with some way of using and reestablishing it in the case of either of the formerly mentioned events.

Like the number 1 and number 2 ranked fighters fighting one another.
Mosley and Forrest.

[Ray*]

On the contrary, I'm explaining, factually, why the boxing press and sanctioning bodies have been selling us a fallacious idea. If the line is broken, it's broken, period.

Am not even complaining about your post, Am just amuse about some of the dumb reply you got from people who are so consume by the Mayweather hatred that they go off your subject.

Zab judah had the WBC,WBA and IBF belts when he fought baldomir, but only the Wbc sanction the fight.