Roy never took a challenge and has a glass Jaw.

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  • THE REED
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    #1

    Roy never took a challenge and has a glass Jaw.

    Let me quote someone

    Originally posted by ianblake
    Tito Trinidad = welter
    RJJ always keep a wall between himself and a real challenge
    To honestly say that roy jones moving up from 154 to fight a prime 28 year old Bernard Hopkins (22-1-0) at the 22nd fight of his career for the vacant ibf middleweight title is not a "challenge"?... To say then 5 fights later he moved up yet again to 168 pounds to fight the ibf super middlweight champion and pound for pound best at the time with a 44-0-2 record, and literally toy with him...knocking him down in the 3rd... is not a "challenge"?... To say then 7 fights later he moved up in weight, again... for the 175 pound light heavyweight WBC light interim title, against a proven 49-3-1 (but aged) mike mccallum, and knock him down in the 10th? and say thats not a challenge? and then the next fight we have montell griffin, someone who finally can box with roy jones... someone who gave him resistance, got DQ... gave an immediate rematch and KOed him the 1st round, wasnt any kind of challenge? then to collect all the belts... with absolutely no problems... wasnt any kind of challenge? not a little bit... and then to go and win the heavyweight title.. coming from 154 pounds, to face a 226 lb fighter, and i dont care how good you think john ruiz is....or how bad... the weight is the equalizer in this fight...193lb vs 226lb SERIOUS difference.... and say THATS not a challenge? then to drop down 24 pounds, 100% ALL MUSCLE... and fight the new best LHW... isnt a challenge? then to get knocked out twice in a row, and to slowly try to restore your great career at 39 years old... isnt a challenge?

    And how come nobody looks at what really happened when roy got knocked out... he just fell off the prime hill? just in one fight? for no apparent reason? to go from one of the best performances in your life against john ruiz, a solid heavyweight on March 1st, 2003... take FLUSH, HARD, CONSECUTIVE, right hands in the first round.... See video below, 4:07 into the video...



    So he takes FLUSH right hands to the face that stumbles him, from a 226 pound john ruiz who knocked down holyfield...and immediately comes back with a right hand.... he went from THAT... to 8 months later fighting Antonio Tarver on November, 08, 2003...

    (a lot of people say he should have retired after the ruiz fight this is why he didnt: He was trying to duplicate what Bob Fitzsimmons did 106 years earlier... go from middleweight to heavyweight... and back down to light heavyweight... if he didnt win the light heavy title, he didnt complete the full job... he set a goal and he followed through with it.. and against the absolute best at that weight in Tarver)

    He went from 193 pounds, 2% body fat, 8 months later drop down to 175 pounds.... if you have body fat, you can lose 18 pounds in a 10 week training camp.... if you have NO fat, do you know what you have to do to lose 18 pounds of pure muscle? you have to run.. and run.... and run some more... and sweat and completely dehydrate your body down to that weight... see comparison below:

    Ruiz fight


    8 months later, tarver fight...


    Does that look like the normal declined look of a human body? from that to that in 8 months? to be able to take heavyweight punches, and then get knocked out from a middleweight punch? (johnson fought at 160)... for no apparent reason ... "oh he has a glass jaw thats why".... thats why?

    This doesn't seem coincidental?

    You dont think dehydrating your body lowers the amount of impact your body can take? you can pass out from doing NOTHING if your dehydrated... could you imagine getting punched to the side of the head.... Now he fought Tarver AGAIN 6 months later... now you think thats enough time to level out... after he went through his first training camp in Tarver I... and looked horrible... after the fight hes obviously gonna acumulate all that water back... and now at 35, hes gonna have to lose it all over again....get KOed and then hes gonna go fight Johnson, 4 months after being KOed from Tarver... as if THATS not gonna have some sort of effect on you...

    Some say Glass Jaw, I say the evidence is right in front of you.


    all just my opinion of course...
  • rizkybizness
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    #2
    That hypejob got brutally KO'd twice and is looking for a 3rd brutal KO at MSG. Please move on.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #3
      people understimate what weight can do to a fighters ability to absorb punches

      Dela Hoya decked twice early in his career due to boiling himself down to super featherweight IMO

      Cotto hurt by Torres and was ready to be took out against Corley

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      • Vladimir303
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        #4
        Damn that comment must've got to you real bad.

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        • K-Nan
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          #5
          Originally posted by R I Z O
          That hypejob got brutally KO'd twice and is looking for a 3rd brutal KO at MSG. Please move on.
          Hypejob? Are you even serious with that ****?

          I mean, some people have their faults with Roy, but even his most jaded critics will admit that he had skills like no other. Roy was never a hype job.

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          • MWMerlino
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            #6
            LOL @ HYPE JOB. I don't understand the glass jaw comments either, out of his 50+ fights he's been KO'd twice, by notoriously hard punchers, aggressive guys really, all after moving up and down in weight class from 154...

            You talk about glass jaws then you are talking about Wlad Klit types who seem like they get hurt when any flush shot lands.

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            • rizkybizness
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              #7
              lol, I was kidding about the hype job comment. I'll make a serious assesment as soon as I read the entire post (thoroughly).

              Thank you.

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              • Dynamite Kid
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                #8
                Originally posted by MWMerlino
                LOL @ HYPE JOB. I don't understand the glass jaw comments either, out of his 50+ fights he's been KO'd twice, by notoriously hard punchers, aggressive guys really, all after moving up and down in weight class from 154...

                You talk about glass jaws then you are talking about Wlad Klit types who seem like they get hurt when any flush shot lands.
                I agree Wlad looks like he is gonne get hurt evertime somebody lands a punch i was actually looking for a reaction when Thompson landed a few punches lol

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                • K-Nan
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by R I Z O
                  lol, I was kidding about the hype job comment. I'll make a serious assesment as soon as I read the entire post (thoroughly).

                  Thank you.
                  Ah, ok.

                  You're welcome.

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                  • Truth
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                    #10
                    I don't like it when people say Roy never faught anybody. There are fights that should have happened that didn't, but he faught some good fighters still.

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