Pac Man's Resume Is So Overrated!

[DLT]

This is a long 2 part thread on 2 different post but trust me, its worth it. Here he goes again fooling the public and media because there dumb enough to fall for it. All he does is fight overrated Mexican guys who have big names because there Mexican. Its exactly what Floyd was talking about. They hype these guys to no end because there Mexican and they brawl.

1st off will people stop acting like Pac fought in a million divisions. He's only fought in 4 real divisions starting at 122. Before that he turned pro at 17 which explains why his weight was so low and he got KO twice before he immediatly jumped to 122 so stop making it sound like he was doing so much before then. He shouldve never even had been at those weights because he was always a huge guy. Then he moves up and beats a past his prime MAB. In the previous year and a half the only guys MAB beat were also old and past there primes in Tapia & Kelley. MAB was supposed to be on top but was fighting bum after bum on PPV and getting away with it but no one said anything like they would to a black fighter. This is also the same great MAB who lost twice to Junior Jones in dominating fashion.

MAB was a guy who also didnt start at 122 which is a patter in Pac's career. Everyone gives him all this credit for moving up in weight but they fail to realize that he always fights guys who also have moved up in weight and is always the much bigger man. Its not like he's moving up and fighting guys who have been at that weight for 6 years and outweigh him by alot. No, they are always guys who are easily smaller then him and have also moved up in weight. He also plays the public by fighting guys like EM, MAB, and JMM in 3 different weight classes. Fighting the same guys a hundred times but at different weights to make it look like he is doing something special. He then fights JMM and drops him 3 times in round 1 but can only come out with a draw. Then he fights EM and loses easily. Then worst of all EM completely ages and gets shutout by Raheem. He never came close to winning a round but yet Pac faces him twice after that, easily stops him, and gets mad credit for it? Can you imagine that? If Floyd did that you wouldnt hear the end of the ripping. 1st they would rip him for even taking a rematch after Raheem killed the guy and would destroy him if he tried to have a 3rd fight when the guy is clearly past it. Not only do they not rip Pac but they act like he's the best fighter ever after doing this. Go figure.

He also had a 5 fight stretch where he fought guys who all had very recent losses like Morales twice, Velazquez, 3K, and Larios. All guys past there primes, coming off losses, and he had a huge size advantage. Everyone thought MAB was done when Pac fought him the 1st time but yet 4 years later they fight again and everyone is ok with it? No one rips him? Its just names that he's beating and guys are falling for it. They are no threat to him. There done and he outweighs them by a hundred pounds and everyone falls for it. Then he has a rematch with JMM and a ton of people thinks that he really lost that. JMM is another highly overrated guy. Who has he beat? ever? He has no good wins. The only guy he ever beat was a old MAB and he got dropped in that fight. I forgot that he beat the other Mexican legend in Juarez who everyone also sweats. All these guys do is fight eachother and get a ton of credit for it when if they fought someone else then they would get skunked. Thats why I always got mad and use to make threads on here saying how can everyone keep rating these Mexican guys so high when they keep losing to eachother? Fight someone else. Its not fair to recycle these guys.

[Domain]

You Mad????

[DLT]

PART 2

I was a big JMM fan. I thought he was a brilliant technician like alot of fools on here still think. Then he fights Pac and gets hit over & over with the same punch. You would never see Floyd, X, Toney, and these guys get hit with the same punch but they dont get the credit that these guys do. JMM then gets dropped in each Pac & MAB fight. He also has other fights where people sweated him like he looked great but I thought he ******. He was fighting a big lefty just like Pac after there 1st fight and got hit a hundred times again by the left. He's a techniqal fighter who's not extrememly aggressive but yet his face is busted up after every fight. Stop falling for these guys greatness. Then Pac moves up to fight Diaz and again gets mad credit. The same Diaz who everyone thought just lost to the EM that was finished, and hadnt won a round in his last 3 fights and got KO twice. The same Diaz who Holt KO but yet Pac gets mad credit for it? Its exactly like Floyd getting ripped for fighting abnd beating Zab but then Cotto fights Zab after he had lost twice in a row, hadnt won in 2 years, and was suspended for a year, yet everyone went crazy like Cotto was the man. Thats what Floyd is talkin about. Its so biased against the black fighters.

Its just like Margarito. This guy can lose to Santos, then lose to Santos again, then get his ass kicked by Clottey until the hand injury, then lose to Williams, but everyone acts like this guy is the Messiah? Can you imagine a black fighter doing that? He would never get good press. Margarito only has 2 good wins and both are against the same overrated PR bum who also has no good win on his resume. Its a fraud. I heard the other guys on here talking about the size advantage Santos had? What? Floyd has fought in 5 divisions, Hopkins in 3, Toney from MW to HW, RJ from MW to HW, Winky in 3, but yet Margarito moves up 1 time against a average guy like Santos and people make excuses? Floyd fights at a huge weight disadvantage every fight. Margarito is way bigger then Floyd. Pac is way bigger then all his opponents until now where he is still the same size as them. Pac came into the Diaz fight weighing more then Floyd did against Baldy and a pound less then Floyd against Oscar at 154 when Oscar came in the ring at 165 pounds. Pac is the same size as Floyd and its not fake. I saw a thread where everyone said that Floyd is bigger. How? Because he started at 130? He couldve also started at a low weight if he turned pro at 17 and wanted to kill himself to fight little guys. Pac has always been huge, always.

Now Pac is fighting Sotto. Another guy coming off a clear recent loss when Guzman just dominated him, yet Pac cant fight Guzman, Campbell, Diaz, Katsidis, and others? Come on now. Stop falling for it. Watch how much credit Pac will again get for beating up a Mexican cat with a huge name because he's Mexican. Saying that Pac has a better resume then Floyd is so ******. He's just beating names and has the big size advantage. Soto is another guy moving up in weight but yet people will play it like Pac is beating all these huge guys. Its a joke. He'll again win and get mad credit for beating a LW version of Margarito and people will go crazy because he beat a Mexican cat. Most of these writers are West Coast guys or Foreigners. Its all bias. They love these guys because of there race and the way they fight. Meanwhile you have real legends like Floyd, Toney, Hopkins, RJ, Winky, and so on but they dont get the same good pub as the other guys because they are black and dont always fight exciting but there skills are top notch and they were all damn near unbeatable in there prime and would wipe the floor with these other guys who I talked about. P4P if you watch those black guys fight compared to those Mexicans, its plain to see who is better. The skill level is far different but watch who gets ripped. Watch how the black guys get called garbage if they lose and are dissed but if these other guys lose then people act like it never even happened or its no big deal. Dont believe me? Just ask Margarito. Its not all Mexicans, its just non blacks or non guys that look black

[Left Hook Tua]

so winning a flyweight title doesn't count?

hmmm......

okay. let's not count his fights and titles below 122. he was only the linear and WBC champion at flyweight.

he only beat the best flyweight at the time to get that belt.

any other things we should not consider?

maybe roy jones beating hopkins at 160? or holyfield being champ below heavyweight?

[delipooke]

So the gist of this post is that all mexican fighters are lame and all black fighters are all underrated and possibly the best? is that it?

[Left Hook Tua]

since you have the power to change boxing history.......

can you make it so that maskaev , rahman , ruiz and moorer were still/already champions when tua knocked their asses out?

i would've like for porkchop to have had a belt.

oh and make it so after the ruiz fight , roy never went back down to light heavy and tarver is still the nobody that he is suppose to be.

[The Next Champ]

great post he hit it on the nail

[baya]

is this a black man's plight sort of post here?

smells like one, but didn't want to put in the effort of finding out for myself.

[2501]

whats so awesome is that the same kind of thread with a biased opinion on floyd's resume can be made. and who do yall think this poster's favorite fighter is? search his posts and you will see.

Pac has won **** in 5 divisions. stop crying because Pac is more liked that floyd.

[2quick2slick]

Floyd is *****. He retired in his prime just to avoid Cotto and Margarito.