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  • WLAD OWNS
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    #11
    Originally posted by .Mik.
    Do you honestly think that Wlad looked good last night?

    This guy may be a Wlad hater, I dont know. But I dont see anything that he posted here that wasnt true. Wlad did not look good against a fairly ordinary fighter.
    Wlad dominated and KO'd the best american heavyweight, it was another good KO win for Wlad.

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    • .Mik.
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      #12
      Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
      Wlad dominated and KO'd the best american heavyweight, it was another good KO win for Wlad.
      Does it not matter to you that the best American Heavyweight was terrible? Surely you are able to see beyond the record? I'll agree with you that Wlad is doing the hardest thing to do in boxing, he's winning and he's defending his titles and all respect in the world to him for it. But I cant believe that you think he looked impressive in this fight. I've seen fights when he HAS looked impressive and he HAS looked like a true champion, but this was not one of them. Was there nothing last night that made you concerned or dissatisfied? Are you so blinkered that you can truly see no fault in his performance, or the manner of his victory?

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      • Ryn0
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        #13
        Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
        Wlad dominated and KO'd the best american heavyweight, it was another good KO win for Wlad.
        That not really saying much Thompson is rubbish, Wlad is a good, solid fighter but he doesn't like to get in exchanges but he wins which is the main thing and dominates.

        Manny has made him a better fighter but far less marketable because his style isn't asthetically pleasing to the average fan. If he really wants to be considered the greatest Heavyweight of his era and a top 20 HW All time he needs to beat. Peter (again) and much more convincingly (which I think he can do infact he can proberbly KO him with the uppercut) Chagaev, Valuev and Haye (if he proves himself)

        If Haye manages to do well at Heavyweight Wlad NEEDS to fight him, I think who ever lands there first big punch will end up KO'd its a toss up really.

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        • The Hammer
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          #14
          Originally posted by .Mik.
          Do you honestly think that Wlad looked good last night?

          This guy may be a Wlad hater, I dont know. But I dont see anything that he posted here that wasnt true. Wlad did not look good against a fairly ordinary fighter.
          If he was "ordinary", why had Thompson never been knocked down in 32 previous fights? Why had he won 27 straight? Compare that to other fighters.

          Thompson is a very difficult opponent for anyone, with very long arms and an excellent jab, and his awkward southpaw style. Watch his fights with Guinn, T. Ibragimov and Krasniqi.

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          • .Mik.
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            #15
            Originally posted by Tunney
            If he was "ordinary", why had Thompson never been knocked down in 32 previous fights? Why had he won 27 straight? Compare that to other fighters.
            Do the words 'Jeff Lacy' not mean anything to you?

            Why is it with posters like you that when a fighter you dont like wins against a fighter who is unproven at the top level its 'blown up overhyped fighter', yet when a fighter you like does the same thing it was a 'dangerous fighter with a good record'?

            Seriously. I'd be interested in hearing a real justification from you.

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            • Boricua6
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              #16
              I like Wlad alot - but I really liked his style pre-Steward. I mean he used to destroy his opponents with his jab, jab-hook, and the deadly right at will. He was a serious "Ivan Drago" killer. Although his competition is better - his boxing instincts seemed to have stalled out.

              I would have expected much more from Emmanuel tenure as his trainer. Common': slapping down an opponents lead hand is childish. He doesn't go to the body nor does he use his spacing - he lunges in and crowds his punches. I know Steward shows him this stuff but it's hasn't become instinctive; Wlad's been in the game too long.

              Granted there's no comp out there now, but if he wants to enhance his legacy...

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              • The Hammer
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                #17
                Originally posted by .Mik.
                Do the words 'Jeff Lacy' not mean anything to you?

                Why is it with posters like you that when a fighter you dont like wins against a fighter who is unproven at the top level its 'blown up overhyped fighter', yet when a fighter you like does the same thing it was a 'dangerous fighter with a good record'?

                Seriously. I'd be interested in hearing a real justification from you.
                I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've never failed to give anyone credit - and Calzaghe vs. Lacy was, in my opinion, one of the greatest performances in boxing history. Joe and Wlad are my two favorite fighters.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _Ricky_
                  Wlad has no inside game whatsoever.
                  Normally he doesnt hafta fight inside. But I think he did a good of improvising.

                  Furthermore, it was not a pretty fight. Everyone has a style that bothers them. I think tall rangy southpaws are what give him a lotta trouble.

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                  • .Mik.
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tunney
                    I'm not sure what you mean by that. I've never failed to give anyone credit - and Calzaghe vs. Lacy was, in my opinion, one of the greatest performances in boxing history. Joe and Wlad are my two favorite fighters.
                    It was a generic example illustrating my point. I wasnt saying that you specifically didnt give Calzaghe credit for beating Lacy. Apparently analogies where the examples used do not apply directly to you, are too subtle for you.

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by .Mik.
                      It was a generic example illustrating my point. I wasnt saying that you specifically didnt give Calzaghe credit for beating Lacy. Apparently analogies where the examples used do not apply directly to you, are too subtle for you.
                      I think that you refusing to give Wladimir credit for a good solid KO win yesterday over a difficult opponent, is very similar to people refusing to give Joe credit for his wins over Lacy and others.

                      Too bad people can't be good sports, instead of discrediting boxing's highest achievers.
                      Last edited by The Hammer; 07-13-2008, 08:43 AM.

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