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  • .Mik.
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    Was I watched a different fight last night?

    All this talk about Wlad firming his hold on the division and Thompson making a brave fight of it smack of people desperate for one of two things:

    1). To maintain that the Heavyweight division isnt in very poor shape at the moment.

    2). To dream that the US heavyweight division isnt in worse shape than its been in for a LONG time.

    Let me preface this by saying that I like both Wlad and Vitali. That I like them as boxers and as people. I also like the US as a boxing community, most of my favourite boxers have been American and probably always will be.

    HOWEVER, I'm sorry to disagree with many of the assessment from yesterday, but it was a terrible fight from two amatuerish and somewhat cowardly fighters. Wlad won clearly and comfortably, but looked dreadful. Open to too many punches, with nothing approaching punching combinations, utterly fearful of everything coming back and frankly ANYONE who criticises Hatton for holding should slam Wlad. Any time he moved into short range, he smothered, clinches and did absolutely NO in-work whatsoever (which at least Hatton did). Considering how concerned he was about taking any punches at all, his defense should've been much stronger. Thompson was slow, lumbering and precitable, yet he still gave Wlad some scares from time to time and Wlad looked terrible with his foot movement.

    Thompson on the other hand was utterly ****. The fact that he 'hung' with Wlad for the first few rounds, was more due to Wlad's failings than any great offensive skills of his own. Yes Wlad landed some good punches and Thompson took them well, demonstrating a very solid chin...But that brings me to my last point.

    Call it all you want, but that was NOT a knock out. For the last two rounds, Tony was looking for any opportunity to get out of that fight. Falling down and wincing about a bad leg...his whole body language during the rounds and in the corner was of a man resigned to defeat. He waited for any opportunity to take a decent punch and then he took the easy way out. Remember that this is a guy who took much harder punches within the fight and never looked rocked. Yet you could tell he was waiting for a half-clean punch to come in so that he could hit the deck, look for 7 seconds like he was knocked clean out and then desperately 'struggle' to his feet to try and maintain some kind of fighting dignity. He would've gotten more respect from me if he'd quit in his corner like he blatantly wanted to.

    Not impressive all around. Cant see how anyone would see it any other way. Respect for Wlad for doing the hardest thing to do in boxing (ie win), but I want to see much more from him in future.
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    #2
    Wlad does need to get over the fear of getting hit, he used to be much more willing to let his hands go and that made for much better fights, his offense was and is still very good it's just he's too scared of opening himself up.

    Thompson was actually better than I expected, he did well in the first few rounds because of his awkward style and determination but he had his will and determination beat out of him by the later rounds. I don't think he took a dive at all, that shot hit him right on the chin and it just had a delayed reaction but he was the beaten fighter long before the knockout.
    Last edited by Silencers; 07-13-2008, 07:06 AM.

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    • .Mik.
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      #3
      'Was I watched a different fight last night?'

      That made me seem much more ****** than I actually am.

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        #4
        Originally posted by .Mik.
        'Was I watched a different fight last night?'

        That made me seem much more ****** than I actually am.
        Yea right..

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        • .Mik.
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          #5
          Yeah...RIGHT.

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            #6
            Originally posted by .Mik.
            Yeah...RIGHT.
            Cool head.

            was only a joke

            [img]http://i131.***********.com/albums/p314/omega_8624/Caps-lock-fury.jpg[/img]

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            • .Mik.
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              #7
              Originally posted by GreatJoe
              Cool head.

              was only a joke

              [img]http://i131.***********.com/albums/p314/omega_8624/Caps-lock-fury.jpg[/img]
              Was only a joke response too.

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                #8
                I was abit disappointed with the fight yesterday to be honest, The fight started quite well then went downhill from there but with the quality we saw yesterday its NO wonder people dont really know who the best HW we have at the moment.

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                • .Mik.
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                  It seems to me lately that Wlad is on the verge of getting worse. All the little 'techniques' he has picked up in order to protect his weaknesses is making him a easier target, a less popular champion and a less technically efficient boxer. He's hiding his weaknesses when he should be trying to improve his fundamentals. Someone will exploit these weaknesses. Wlad is the best of a bad bunch, but I dont see how anyone could make him out to be a great champ of the ages. Lewis in particular of recent years would've absolutely dominated him.

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                    The funniest thing is i use to rate Wlad over his brother!!! Wlad use to be a very good mover/Boxer and his bro was just too upright and robotic for me, I wouldnt be surprise if Povetkin outwork Wlad over 12 rounds if povetkin can get inside of Wlad.

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