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  • El Jesus
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

    Lol, you really think Mexicans care about the semantics of the situation?

    When anyone sees me on the street, they don't think, "there goes a brown american man.

    No dumbass, they think, "theres a Mexican".

    We have cultural pride that goes beyond borders and certified papers. Its in our food, our music, our customs and traditions.


    You can argue it all you want, but this is the only country where Mexicans have a rightful place to call home besides Mexico.

    Learn some history before you go spouting off such nonsense.

    I'm american by birthright, Mexican by nature.

    You're just a confused white kid.

    Learn some history? I know the history of mexico/america fairly well. Since im a "dumbass" and now all of the sudden, i have bcome a "confused white kid" i can tell you that when the spanish empire ruined half of the united states by establishing missions, destroying native indegnous indian culture in the process.

    You say mexicans "have a right to call this place home" but the reality is, you won it the same way it was lost, with war. The spanish empire had it, then mexico had it, now the united states has it. Just like the spanish who ravaged the west coast before it became mexico, the united states took it from mexico by means of illegal war. Either way, mexico wouldnt have had the money or the resources to govern beyond the rio grande regardless, the evolution of time always creates new borders. You may feel you have some kind of "right" call this place home because you are mexican, but the reality is as a black man, i understand full well that time and displacement can do to a group of people. Especially when it comes to hanging onto history that goes back hundreds of years. What may have been reality before, isnt reality now, you can choose to hold onto ideals of the past that dont reflect reality, or you can move on with the evolution of whats happening now. Having a sense of entitlement will get you very few places. This is america and at this point, anyone willing to contribute anything positive to this society has just as much right as you do.


    Since this is america, there is no wrong in saying you are mexican by nature, but there is nothing more american than holding onto your own cultures and customs and fusing them with the melting pot of american lifestyle. Why you would assume im white i have no clue. But seeing as how you felt so terribly insulted by what i said, i can only assume this is clearly a touchy subject for you.

    Im willing to let those insults slide because I dont think you really understood what i was saying, but im just letting you know, its not nessecary just because we disagree, dont fall into the same trap that lesser idiots on here do, i think you are better than that.
    Last edited by El Jesus; 07-13-2008, 03:18 PM.

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    • VIVA MEXICO!!
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

      Lol, you really think Mexicans care about the semantics of the situation?

      When anyone sees me on the street, they don't think, "there goes a brown american man.

      No dumbass, they think, "theres a Mexican".

      We have cultural pride that goes beyond borders and certified papers. Its in our food, our music, our customs and traditions.


      You can argue it all you want, but this is the only country where Mexicans have a rightful place to call home besides Mexico.

      Learn some history before you go spouting off such nonsense.

      I'm american by birthright, Mexican by nature.

      You're just a confused white kid.
      plain and basic common sense. this guy was also trying to say trinidad is black and not latino.

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      • El Jesus
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        #33
        Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

        Lol, you really think Mexicans care about the semantics of the situation?

        When anyone sees me on the street, they don't think, "there goes a brown american man.

        No dumbass, they think, "theres a Mexican".

        We have cultural pride that goes beyond borders and certified papers. Its in our food, our music, our customs and traditions.


        You can argue it all you want, but this is the only country where Mexicans have a rightful place to call home besides Mexico.

        Learn some history before you go spouting off such nonsense.

        I'm american by birthright, Mexican by nature.

        You're just a confused white kid.
        Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
        plain and basic common sense. this guy was also trying to say trinidad is black and not latino.


        lol, because you can only be black if your from america or africa right? many blacks in latin america tend to not be self aware, lets say for instance, trinidad flatout wont say he is, but tego calderon definately does. Your race and nationlity arent the same thing.

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        • kayjay
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          #34
          Tony Thompson is better than him

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          • DanielTurcotte3
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            #35
            HAHAHAHA.....................Sounds really good coming from a Mexican......Well....Actually are you Mexican.....anyway this is a very unbiased thread started by a person who believes in one thing....PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE.......You ****in ****.....Stop over hyping your fighter dutchie....the minute he gets in the ring with a REAL HW....He's gonna get his teeth smashed in, he has no skill whatsoever and your an absolute joke.....Well judging by this website that's well established....if you believe he is.......



            Now that's some motha ****ing PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE......................BBIIATCCCHHH!

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            • mspiegelo
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              #36
              i wrote dougie fisher an email for his mailbag entitled "arreola sucking at the teet of heavyweight contention," what i thought was a clever, non-insulting play off his last name. my email commended him on winning against witherspoon, but criticized him for not doing enough roadwork and for being fat. i also said he punched himself out several times against chazz and left himself vulnerable for gaps of time in between his hellacious furies while he regained his lungs. I also said if Chazz had boxed and not got suckered into trading, the outcome might have been different cause Chazz could have outboxed him with good movement since Arreola is basically a blimp.

              then dougie posts my email, changes the title to "Arreola sucks teets" making it look like I am just straight hatin on the fool hard, and then D blasts me for dissing his west coast boy and for being "an armchair eddie futch" (what is he again, the non-boxing critic? at least i DO box).

              haha, the guy is delusional if he thinks arreola can beat klitschko. even if he were to become one of the champs (no way he unifies), its not because hes great, its because the heavyweights are in the sorriest state they have been in the history of modern boxing. whatever, i still like dougie more than fat-ass dan rafael and ron borges the roy-hater, but arreola sucks in the grand scheme of elite heavyweights that have blessed the heavyweight division in better times, and unless he gets serious about training (not just sparring, but real conditioning and strength training), I can't respect him the way I do the guys who show true dedication to the sport...

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #37
                Originally posted by Black Jesus
                Learn some history? I know the history of mexico/america fairly well. Since im a "dumbass" and now all of the sudden, i have bcome a "confused white kid" i can tell you that when the spanish empire ruined half of the united states by establishing missions, destroying native indegnous indian culture in the process.

                You say mexicans "have a right to call this place home" but the reality is, you won it the same way it was lost, with war. The spanish empire had it, then mexico had it, now the united states has it. Just like the spanish who ravaged the west coast before it became mexico, the united states took it from mexico by means of illegal war. Either way, mexico wouldnt have had the money or the resources to govern beyond the rio grande regardless, the evolution of time always creates new borders. You may feel you have some kind of "right" call this place home because you are mexican, but the reality is as a black man, i understand full well that time and displacement can do to a group of people. Especially when it comes to hanging onto history that goes back hundreds of years. What may have been reality before, isnt reality now, you can choose to hold onto ideals of the past that dont reflect reality, or you can move on with the evolution of whats happening now. Having a sense of entitlement will get you very few places. This is america and at this point, anyone willing to contribute anything positive to this society has just as much right as you do.


                Since this is america, there is no wrong in saying you are mexican by nature, but there is nothing more american than holding onto your own cultures and customs and fusing them with the melting pot of american lifestyle. Why you would assume im white i have no clue. But seeing as how you felt so terribly insulted by what i said, i can only assume this is clearly a touchy subject for you.

                Im willing to let those insults slide because I dont think you really understood what i was saying, but im just letting you know, its not nessecary just because we disagree, dont fall into the same trap that lesser idiots on here do, i think you are better than that.

                I guess you really are that ******.


                lol at this white kid telling a Mexican what a Mexican is.

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                • RagingBull22
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                  #38
                  Tony Thompson is still the best American heavyweight, he would beat Arreola for sure.

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                  • VIVA MEXICO!!
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RagingBull22
                    Tony Thompson is still the best American heavyweight, he would beat Arreola for sure.
                    what a joke. arreola is the mexican sam peter. he would destroy thompson faster than klitschko.

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                    • RagingBull22
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!
                      what a joke. arreola is the mexican sam peter. he would destroy thompson faster than klitschko.
                      Arreola is a fat ****, lacks skill and he blocks punches with his face

                      Wlad would KO Arreola in 2 rounds

                      Thompson would win a comfortable UD over Arreola

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