Carl Froch the new Antonio Margarito!!

[ALT-Assassin]

Yes, Taylor has some talent, but I think the atributes you describe kind of highlight my point. Taylor can do lots of things, but it is impossible with him to say that he has a single genuinely world class attribute that sets him apart from the crowd and gives his opposition something to really think about. He is something of a jack of all trades, master of none.

The closest thing he has to a major weapon is his jab, which is very nice and quick, I agree, but alone is not enough to win fights except when, as against Hopkins, his opponent is very low output. With a jab you really need to be setting up for something else, which Taylor really doesn't, or when he does it isn't devastating. I would probably describe him as a boxer with nicely rounded skills but just that little bit too lacking in the talent department to really be able to make those skills pay.

Pavlik has more talent thsn people give him credit for he also has a good jab and uses it to set up that bomb of a right hand and he also moves the oponents gaurd down when they are blocking to create an opening for his right.His defense needs improvment but he does put up his gloves after he exchanges,the only problem is he doesn't tighten his arms up enough so he leaves openings.This could be because he always wants to be ready to let off a punch.Kelly is also a good judge of distance and can time you if you let him get into a rythem.His punches vary from a right hand then an uppercut to the body followed by a jab then a right hand.This combination can be switched into any order he choses.The best quality he posses is his detemination to stick to his gameplan even when he hits the canvas.His heart is only riviled by the best.

[abadger]

Pavlik has more talent thsn people give him credit for he also has a good jab and uses it to set up that bomb of a right hand and he also moves the oponents gaurd down when they are blocking to create an opening for his right.His defense needs improvment but he does put up his gloves after he exchanges,the only problem is he doesn't tighten his arms up enough so he leaves openings.This could be because he always wants to be ready to let off a punch.Kelly is also a good judge of distance and can time you if you let him get into a rythem.His punches vary from a right hand then an uppercut to the body followed by a jab then a right hand.This combination can be switched into any order he choses.The best quality he posses is his detemination to stick to his gameplan even when he hits the canvas.His heart is only riviled by the best.

I was talking about Taylor...anyway...

Yes, what Pavlik does he does very well, his weakness is that he is slow, quite static and not very varied. I know its a stereotype, but its true, he really does mostly just attack with left jab, right hand. He's excellent at it though.

Pavlik is in some ways the opposite of Taylor, a fighter who perhaps doesn't have the most rounded skills but has some major weapons that he can use to compensate.

[ALT-Assassin]

I was talking about Taylor...anyway...

Yes, what Pavlik does he does very well, his weakness is that he is slow, quite static and not very varied. I know its a stereotype, but its true, he really does mostly just attack with left jab, right hand. He's excellent at it though.

Pavlik is in some ways the opposite of Taylor, a fighter who perhaps doesn't have the most rounded skills but has some major weapons that he can use to compensate.

I know but in a previous post you said Pavlik only relies on his power and that is untrue.

[mojack]

Put your **** back in.

[abadger]

I know but in a previous post you said Pavlik only relies on his power and that is untrue.

Well, it really a combination of power and workrate. He throws lots of hard shots and relies on this being enough to break his opponent down to the point that they get KOd or at least drained of energy so they can't compete with him and get decisioned. If Pavlik did not have the power he has he would not be half as successful a boxer, although his workrate would always give him a chance on the cards.

[Shalafi]

If you are talking about the same Carl Froch that was recently shown on Showbox then I could care less about that chump. They matched him up with a bum and he looked horrendous, what a boring fight that was, his first US Network debut and that was the best he could do? man was that guy lethargic and boring. Big puncher? maybe so, he surely didn't look like it that night though.

[Drunk Punch]

If you are talking about the same Carl Froch that was recently shown on Showbox then I could care less about that chump. They matched him up with a bum and he looked horrendous, what a boring fight that was, his first US Network debut and that was the best he could do? man was that guy lethargic and boring. Big puncher? maybe so, he surely didn't look like it that night though.

Maybe you should right him off then. After all you've seen one fight.

[Peder]

Its too bad for Froch, Taylor would have been a nice ticket to some fast world recognition.
I won't blame Taylor for not taking this fight though, Lacy is a reasonable comeback fight and a well paid road to a title. This is unfortunately how European boxing works, the value decreases as soon as a fighter steps foot outside his home country, making it near impossible to get a good match before you hold a title.
Froch will be the next wbc champ.

[abadger]

If you are talking about the same Carl Froch that was recently shown on Showbox then I could care less about that chump. They matched him up with a bum and he looked horrendous, what a boring fight that was, his first US Network debut and that was the best he could do? man was that guy lethargic and boring. Big puncher? maybe so, he surely didn't look like it that night though.

You really shouldn't have this "couldn't care less" attitude. Froch may not have looked good, but that doesn't change the fact that he is one of the most highly ranked SMWs out there. If he were from your country then I'm sure you would see him as a flawed up and comer with potential. Dismissing boxers so glibly is not really being a fan of boxing.

[da_beast]

What has Jermain Taylor done a super middle weight to get anywhere near a title shot anyway?

Froch has done all the hardwork going up the rankings only for Taylor to jump ahead of him,

Froch is a proven Super Middle Weight with a sledgehammer of a punch, Taylor has not even proven that he could cope at supper middleweight FACT he has only moved weight because the only way back in middle weight for him is a fight with abraham who would take him apart. He is an average boxer who's style clashed with bhops, i am not saying Froch is a p4p or anything near it but he is a solid boxer with good power

Kessler is the man to beat in my opinion at the supper middleweight