This is how it would really be if Wlad was Black and American

[Ray*]

Man, this **** is getting real old, real quick. Tunney, it really doesn't have anything to do with race and all that rubbish. Get back to posting your good stuff and give up on this crap. It sounds like you're losing it mate.

The reason I, and my friends and I imagine most other boxing fans, find the heavyweights boring is that all the fights are simply crap. Even when there is a knock out, they are generally preceded by lumbering dolts bumbling about and tired rounds of bollocks nothing before one right hand finishes it suddenly. The only good heavyweight fight I've seen in the recent few years was the one round KO between 'Big Sky' and Barrett.

Even Wlad's are boring. They are, as I said above, preceded by nothing but boring crap. I guess the only thing that makes it minimally exciting is that possibility of him getting knocked out himself. With the guys he is fighting though, that would rarely happen, even though much lesser opponents than Tony Thompson have done it.

I think everyone should just give up on the heavyweights for now until they rid themselves of each other by not fighting and getting old and then when the new crop come through we can take some interest again. I've never been much of a heavy fan myself though to be honest. Ten times better fights in the lower divisions.

One problem with your 'white' hate theory Tunney, and all the other guys like Wlad Owns/Tyson etc, is that some of the most popular guys fighting today are white guys that are not from America. Hatton pulled in a crowd that outdid Mayweathers in his own home town. Kessler has a pretty decent following these days and Katsidis has already become a star in America due to the way he fights.

It really isn't about race or any bollocks bull**** like that. It is simply about the way the fighters go about winning or even losing! If they lose to ****e competition but it is a fantastic fight, people will still like them and if they win everything else with exciting back and forth interesting action and skill, it doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, everyone will love them!

Just look at Pavlik at the moment. Everyone loves the guy due to the way he fights and he is as white as they come. He also beat up on the previously loved black champion. No one gave a ****e though because he is really gutsy and gives non stop action. What about Haye? He is a black dude from Britain and people are very excited about him with his exciting style.

The race argument just doesn't wash when you look at it from a proper perspective. The problem is that whenever people start crying 'race', the lack of perspective is the whole issue. Those that do cry about it forget to look at the big picture and can't see the amount of cases that contradict their argument. Tunney mate, forget it. It is not about race. Let it go.

Good stuff mate, Am tired of people bringing race into boxing in 2008, Wlad had the chance to win over alot of fans over here in the UK but he spend the whole fight slapping another man's hand down.. The guy is boring has hell but he is the best HW fighter that we have at the moment.

I hope he becomes more agressive in the ring and not wait for his opponent to get tired before he takes a risk in letting his hands go.

[Boofdatruth]

Good stuff mate, Am tired of people bringing race into boxing in 2008, Wlad had the chance to win over alot of fans over here in the UK but he spend the whole fight slapping another man's hand down.. The guy is boring has hell but he is the best HW fighter that we have at the moment.

I hope he becomes more agressive in the ring and not wait for his opponent to get tired before he takes a risk in letting his hands go.

It is bad when you bring up race, and then use ALT's to agree with yourself too. He is just having fun on his computer. Maybe he turns the television off right before Wlad is ko'd. He has a premonition right before Wlad is ko'd lol.

[El Jesus]

Good stuff mate, Am tired of people bringing race into boxing in 2008, Wlad had the chance to win over alot of fans over here in the UK but he spend the whole fight slapping another man's hand down.

lol what fight was that?

[kayjay]

I love when the self-righteous crowd sees an opportuntity to recite platitudes.

[Ray*]

lol what fight was that?

Is fight with Sultan Ibragimov, They showed it live and we were all looking forward to it but he spend the most of his time slapping Sultan's hands down. That was a right turn off

[El Jesus]

Is fight with Sultan Ibragimov, They showed it live and we were all looking forward to it but he spend the most of his time slapping Sultan's hands down. That was a right turn off

oh i thought you meant he fought in the UK.

What would the reaction be for a UNIFICATION FIGHT live and actually in england?

[Ray*]

oh i thought you meant he fought in the UK.

What would the reaction be for a UNIFICATION FIGHT live and actually in england?

Well it depends if the fighter is quite popular then the turn out would be great, if Wlad fought lets say Haye in England (london) then i say 40-50,000 people would turn up..thats if the fight was for a unification fight.

[kayjay]

Well it depends if the fighter is quite popular then the turn out would be great, if Wlad fought lets say Haye in England (london) then i say 40-50,000 people would turn up..thats if the fight was for a unification fight.

Haye doesn't have a HW title and to my knowledge isn't fighting for one.

Of course if there were an English champion it would be a huge draw in England. But there aren't English champions at HW

[mellow_mood]

why write a book.. when you can argue with short valid points.....

[Ray*]

Haye doesn't have a HW title and to my knowledge isn't fighting for one.

Of course if there were an English champion it would be a huge draw in England. But there aren't English champions at HW

Thats why i said if the fight was for a unification, Which means if Haye has a belt for example the WBC and Wlad has the WBO/IBF belt then its guarantee both fighter would sell out in the UK.