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  • invincible_pac
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    BOXING's COULD HAVE BEEN GREATS!

    Tyson, De la HOya, Lewis, ALI, Louis, etc...

    So many great boxers to Mentioned. but What About Those boxers who was in Their way to Greatness and a Chance to greatness but a certain EVent took place that forever screwd their carrers.

    I have Some in My list and maybe you have your own.

    Here are mine.

    1. Rid**** Bowe:

    The Big Daddy, Have the size of a Monster and a Power and skills that Have the Potential to Clean Out the Eagerly Exciting Heavyweight division in the Early ninties. He showed his heart and skills in his Two Fights with the Real Deal and Showcase his Power when he Knocked him out Cold in their RubberMATCH Until he Run against a Wild Rugged Foul Pole in GOLOTA their First two MATCH were suppose to be one of The great fights. Untill Golota made ****** mistakes by Fouling BOWE. In their two bouts. That was Big Daddy's Last fight befor his life bercomes a mess. Now he is making a comeback, a comeback in the ERA in which the Heavyweight Division has no More LEWIS, had an OLD VANDER, an injury PLAGUE MIKE TYSON, a HUGGING RUIZ, and a POWDER PUNCHING BYRD. Bowe may beat all these fighters but then he could never claim greatness like WHAT an ALI or a LOUIS had.

    2. IKE IBEAUCHI:

    In The Middle Nineties Heavyweight Division Has so Many Potential Superstar, But no One has the same intimidating presence as THE PRESIDENT IKE IBEAUCHI. He's got the intimidation power as much as the same amount of punching power as a PRIME TYSON (As Evidence of His Anihillation Of CHRIS BYRD)
    The Chin that could take even the strongest Punching Heavyweight, Heart like the REAL DEAL ( as Evidence with his Power Punching Contest with DAVID TUA) But the same as MIKE TYSON IKE has to go to JAIL Accused of ****. But Unlike MIKE IKE Went to Jail without having to reach his POTENTIAL. Thus MAking Boxing FAN in LIMBO and Wondering What if IKE had not been Jailed. Well we will never Know he screwed up his Chance He disappont his Fans. He could have been, thats the Best thing he could offer.

    3. Michael Moorer

    Think of Michael Moorer as a Heavy weight, and you will remember a Fighter outpointed a Prime Holyfield only to lost by a single PUNCH(in His first defense of his crown) to an OLD GEORGE FOREMAN, a fighter who was Knocked down Five Times In the Rematch with Holyfield, and a fighter who lasted 30 seconds against the TUAMAN. But think of MOORER as LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT and you will FIND out, a Devastating Puncher with a 22 0 record with all his wins by way of knockout. what if Moorer stayed a t light heavy, he could have obliterated JONES, TARVER might not have a chance to rule the division. But Moorer Move up to Heavyweight and becomes LAZY in his Training Thus Causes his every heavyweight performance looks like a Nuissance when his Fightin the Best. Well He is not Yet retired he still have a chence but a very slim Chance.

    4. Michael Grant:

    You have seen the HYPE, and you have the seen the HYPE goes down in Blitz. A hulking 6'7 frame, has the potential to clean out the Heavyweight Division but one Big Mistake Cost this kid his Bright Future. A young and Undefeated Michael Grant was Pited against a Strong and Hungry Heavyweight Champion Lennox Lewis, a move which serve fatal to the young carrer of a good heavyweight prospect GRANT went on to lose in the second round in a fight Dubbed as CLASH OF The TITANS. From then on GRANT's Confidence is no where to be found, if only Grant was being Pace slowly he could have gotten LEWIS by The Time he is Ready to be Picked.

    5. Oliver Mc Call:

    A strong puncher and a very good CHIN, Sent Lennox Lewis to dreamland with a single punch. But went on to Lose to another Brit, Frank Bruno by UD. and Cried in The 5th round of the Lennox Lewis Rematch. This Guy has the Crude skills to take him places. Has a very good CHIN to compete with the BEST. But suddenly lost his SANITY to Drug Addiction.

    What Can I say these fighters have their chance but Circumastances occured that they might or might not have control over it cost their chances to obtain Superstar Status or a Chance to be recognize as one of the Greats.

    You Might Have your own list Please tell Me yours.
    Last edited by invincible_pac; 11-02-2004, 03:59 PM.
  • marvdave
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    #2
    1. Bowe- always the first to come to my mind.

    2.Cooney- don't laugh, if he wsn't a head case and hit didn't hit the juice, his hook alone would have gotten him places

    3.Dokes- Drugs,drugs,drugs

    4.Wlad- all the skill in thw world, but lacking a chin and stamina

    5.Witherspoon- power, ability and a big chin...lazy,and fat most of the time

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    • MetalVomit
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      #3
      Originally posted by invincible_pac
      Tyson, De la HOya, Lewis, ALI, Louis, etc...

      So many great boxers to Mentioned. but What About Those boxers who was in Their way to Greatness and a Chance to greatness but a certain EVent took place that forever screwd their carrers.

      I have Some in My list and maybe you have your own.

      Here are mine.

      1. Rid**** Bowe:

      The Big Daddy, Have the size of a Monster and a Power and skills that Have the Potential to Clean Out the Eagerly Exciting Heavyweight division in the Early ninties. He showed his heart and skills in his Two Fights with the Real Deal and Showcase his Power when he Knocked him out Cold in their RubberMATCH Until he Run against a Wild Rugged Foul Pole in GOLOTA their First two MATCH were suppose to be one of The great fights. Untill Golota made ****** mistakes by Fouling BOWE. In their two bouts. That was Big Daddy's Last fight befor his life bercomes a mess. Now he is making a comeback, a comeback in the ERA in which the Heavyweight Division has no More LEWIS, had an OLD VANDER, an injury PLAGUE MIKE TYSON, a HUGGING RUIZ, and a POWDER PUNCHING BYRD. Bowe may beat all these fighters but then he could never claim greatness like WHAT an ALI or a LOUIS had.

      2. IKE IBEAUCHI:

      In The Middle Nineties Heavyweight Division Has so Many Potential Superstar, But no One has the same intimidating presence as THE PRESIDENT IKE IBEAUCHI. He's got the intimidation power as much as the same amount of punching power as a PRIME TYSON (As Evidence of His Anihillation Of CHRIS BYRD)
      The Chin that could take even the strongest Punching Heavyweight, Heart like the REAL DEAL ( as Evidence with his Power Punching Contest with DAVID TUA) But the same as MIKE TYSON IKE has to go to JAIL Accused of ****. But Unlike MIKE IKE Went to Jail without having to reach his POTENTIAL. Thus MAking Boxing FAN in LIMBO and Wondering What if IKE had not been Jailed. Well we will never Know he screwed up his Chance He disappont his Fans. He could have been, thats the Best thing he could offer.

      3. Michael Moorer

      Think of Michael Moorer as a Heavy weight, and you will remember a Fighter outpointed a Prime Holyfield only to lost by a single PUNCH(in His first defense of his crown) to an OLD GEORGE FOREMAN, a fighter who was Knocked down Five Times In the Rematch with Holyfield, and a fighter who lasted 30 seconds against the TUAMAN. But think of MOORER as LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT and you will FIND out, a Devastating Puncher with a 22 0 record with all his wins by way of knockout. what if Moorer stayed a t light heavy, he could have obliterated JONES, TARVER might not have a chance to rule the division. But Moorer Move up to Heavyweight and becomes LAZY in his Training Thus Causes his every heavyweight performance looks like a Nuissance when his Fightin the Best. Well He is not Yet retired he still have a chence but a very slim Chance.

      4. Michael Grant:

      You have seen the HYPE, and you have the seen the YPE goes down in Blitz. A hulking 6'7 frame, has the potential to clean out the Heavyweight Division but one Big Mistake Cost this kid his Bright Future. A young and Undefeated Michael Grant was Pited against a Strong and Hungry Heavyweight Champion Lennox Lewis, a move which serve fatal to the young carrer of a good heavyweight prospect GRANT went on to lose in the second round in a fight Dubbed as CLASH OF The TITANS. From then on GRANT's Confidence is no where to be found, if only Grant was being Pace slowly he could have gotten LEWIS by The Time he is Ready to be Picked.

      5. Oliver Mc Call:

      A strong puncher and a very good CHIN, Sent Lennox Lewis to dreamland with a single punch. But went on to Lose to another Brit, Frank Bruno by UD. and Cried in The 5th round of the Lennox Lewis Rematch. This Guy has the Crude skills to take him places. Has a very good CHIN to compete with the BEST. But suddenly lost his SANITY to Drug Addiction.

      What Can I say these fighters have their chance but Circumastances occured that they might or might not have control over it cost their chances to obtain Superstar Status or a Chance to be recognize as one of the Greats.

      You Might Have your own list Please tell Me yours.

      i agree, but Moorer wouldnt have taken Jones at light heavy, he was too slow, he would have gotten picked apart and jones would win by boring UD. It's too bad about Bowe and Ike, I thought they were going to be great as well.

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      • invincible_pac
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        #4
        Originally posted by GodzHand
        i agree, but Moorer wouldnt have taken Jones at light heavy, he was too slow, he would have gotten picked apart and jones would win by boring UD. It's too bad about Bowe and Ike, I thought they were going to be great as well.

        Honorable Mentions

        Andrew Golota: Idiot in The ring when leading his Fouling

        Gerard Mclellan: Too strong a Puncher, but couldnt take a Punch himself. Unfortunate Injury cost his carrer and life.

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        • Boxerdog
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          #5
          Howard Davis comnes to mind for me. Also the other olympian who tried acting .....can't recall the name and THAT speaks volumes.
          (about both his disapointing career and my oncoming senility!)
          He was in the film "Taps" with a very young Tom Cruise I believe.
          Last edited by Boxerdog; 11-02-2004, 03:54 PM.

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          • scap
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            #6
            Andrew Golota
            Oliver McCall
            Gerald McClellan
            Lamar Parks-maybe overstating it a bit but I loved him
            Ike
            Razor Ruddock
            Joel Casamayor-if he wasn't such a ***** I think this guy could be a lot better than he is

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            • Truth
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              #7
              If someone is great or not really comes down to the opinion of a person. No one is officially great in everyones eyes, in reality Ali is one of the greatest ever but not everyone believes that. I heard someone say Joe Louis wasn't great, thats wrong but thats there opinion. Greatness is an opinion

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              • invincible_pac
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mayweatherfan
                If someone is great or not really comes down to the opinion of a person. No one is officially great in everyones eyes, in reality Ali is one of the greatest ever but not everyone believes that. I heard someone say Joe Louis wasn't great, thats wrong but thats there opinion. Greatness is an opinion
                You are definitetly right man.

                But in your Opinion.

                Who Do you think were the fighters who had the chance to be recognize by the Majority as one of The Greatest But screwed up their chances.

                Have your own list?

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                • Truth
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by invincible_pac

                  1. Rid**** Bowe:

                  The Big Daddy, Have the size of a Monster and a Power and skills that Have the Potential to Clean Out the Eagerly Exciting Heavyweight division in the Early ninties. He showed his heart and skills in his Two Fights with the Real Deal and Showcase his Power when he Knocked him out Cold in their RubberMATCH Until he Run against a Wild Rugged Foul Pole in GOLOTA their First two MATCH were suppose to be one of The great fights. Untill Golota made ****** mistakes by Fouling BOWE. In their two bouts. That was Big Daddy's Last fight befor his life bercomes a mess. Now he is making a comeback, a comeback in the ERA in which the Heavyweight Division has no More LEWIS, had an OLD VANDER, an injury PLAGUE MIKE TYSON, a HUGGING RUIZ, and a POWDER PUNCHING BYRD. Bowe may beat all these fighters but then he could never claim greatness like WHAT an ALI or a LOUIS had.

                  2. IKE IBEAUCHI:

                  In The Middle Nineties Heavyweight Division Has so Many Potential Superstar, But no One has the same intimidating presence as THE PRESIDENT IKE IBEAUCHI. He's got the intimidation power as much as the same amount of punching power as a PRIME TYSON (As Evidence of His Anihillation Of CHRIS BYRD)
                  The Chin that could take even the strongest Punching Heavyweight, Heart like the REAL DEAL ( as Evidence with his Power Punching Contest with DAVID TUA) But the same as MIKE TYSON IKE has to go to JAIL Accused of ****. But Unlike MIKE IKE Went to Jail without having to reach his POTENTIAL. Thus MAking Boxing FAN in LIMBO and Wondering What if IKE had not been Jailed. Well we will never Know he screwed up his Chance He disappont his Fans. He could have been, thats the Best thing he could offer.

                  3. Michael Moorer

                  Think of Michael Moorer as a Heavy weight, and you will remember a Fighter outpointed a Prime Holyfield only to lost by a single PUNCH(in His first defense of his crown) to an OLD GEORGE FOREMAN, a fighter who was Knocked down Five Times In the Rematch with Holyfield, and a fighter who lasted 30 seconds against the TUAMAN. But think of MOORER as LIGHTHEAVYWEIGHT and you will FIND out, a Devastating Puncher with a 22 0 record with all his wins by way of knockout. what if Moorer stayed a t light heavy, he could have obliterated JONES, TARVER might not have a chance to rule the division. But Moorer Move up to Heavyweight and becomes LAZY in his Training Thus Causes his every heavyweight performance looks like a Nuissance when his Fightin the Best. Well He is not Yet retired he still have a chence but a very slim Chance.

                  4. Michael Grant:

                  You have seen the HYPE, and you have the seen the HYPE goes down in Blitz. A hulking 6'7 frame, has the potential to clean out the Heavyweight Division but one Big Mistake Cost this kid his Bright Future. A young and Undefeated Michael Grant was Pited against a Strong and Hungry Heavyweight Champion Lennox Lewis, a move which serve fatal to the young carrer of a good heavyweight prospect GRANT went on to lose in the second round in a fight Dubbed as CLASH OF The TITANS. From then on GRANT's Confidence is no where to be found, if only Grant was being Pace slowly he could have gotten LEWIS by The Time he is Ready to be Picked.

                  5. Oliver Mc Call:

                  A strong puncher and a very good CHIN, Sent Lennox Lewis to dreamland with a single punch. But went on to Lose to another Brit, Frank Bruno by UD. and Cried in The 5th round of the Lennox Lewis Rematch. This Guy has the Crude skills to take him places. Has a very good CHIN to compete with the BEST. But suddenly lost his SANITY to Drug Addiction.

                  What Can I say these fighters have their chance but Circumastances occured that they might or might not have control over it cost their chances to obtain Superstar Status or a Chance to be recognize as one of the Greats.

                  You Might Have your own list Please tell Me yours.

                  I think your list is accurate, all those fighters had a chance to be great.

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                  • Sir_Jose
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                    The guy who I think is the biggest waste of talent I have ever seen is Ri**** Bowe. Bowe could do everything and had all the talent in the world he was just so damn lazy

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