Samuel Peter vs. Vitali Klitschko on October 4 in Berlin?

[!!Captain]

I'll bet 15K Vitali doesn't even make it thru training camp to fight Oct 4th. Any takers?...

But if he makes it, it's gonna be a party!

[!!Captain]

15K it is, then. Btw, I hope I lose this bet....

If you lose, I'll get you 15K, just for saying this.

[Derranged_]

If you lose, I'll get you 15K, just for saying this.

Thanks, that's a perfect 'hedge' for my bet...

[!!Captain]

Oh, and on a side note, I hope Thread Stealer chokes if the fight happens and Vitali mops the floor with Peter.

[dans]

He lost his first fight with Toney. Poor old fat Toney, who was huffing and puffing and walking around the ring, made Peter look like an amateur.

And if Vitali makes it to the fight (it's a big IF), he will make Peter look like a piece of dead meat.

I'm willing to bet up to 300K points that IF Vitali makes it to the fight, he will **** Peter up.

That's great that you think Toney won the fight, too bad you weren't one of the judges huh. We can't count what we think happened as truth. By the way, why do you want Vitali to win? Honestly I don't mind Wlad but the whole Champion Emeritus thing with Vitali is garbage. The guy has been a cornerman for four years and all the sudden he has a shot to beat one of the only exciting fighters in the division, what crap. I'd rather have Ruiz get a shot at the title, at least he deserves it.

[!!Captain]

That's great that you think Toney won the fight, too bad you weren't one of the judges huh. We can't count what we think happened as truth. By the way, why do you want Vitali to win? Honestly I don't mind Wlad but the whole Champion Emeritus thing with Vitali is garbage. The guy has been a cornerman for four years and all the sudden he has a shot to beat one of the only exciting fighters in the division, what crap. I'd rather have Ruiz get a shot at the title, at least he deserves it.

The whole boxing community said that Toney won that fight. The judges were paid that night and it was blatantly obvious. That's part of the reason why I want Peter to lose.

Why I want Vitali to win? For all the people can't apprehend the simple logic and reasoning, here it is: Vitali winning the WBC belt would create a perfect environment for unification. For as long as King has his hands on one of the belts, there will be no unification. Vitali could fight Peter without King imposing options on him because WBC ruled it the mandatory defense for Peter, hence King has no say in the matter. Vitali winning the belt and then retiring would leave it up for grabs for Virchis/Gomez winner, which in turn would make unification possible quicker than Peter milking the title for the next 3 years before fighting a real fighter.

[dans]

The whole boxing community said that Toney won that fight. The judges were paid that night and it was blatantly obvious. That's part of the reason why I want Peter to lose.

Why I want Vitali to win? For all the people can't apprehend the simple logic and reasoning, here it is: Vitali winning the WBC belt would create a perfect environment for unification. For as long as King has his hands on one of the belts, there will be no unification. Vitali could fight Peter without King imposing options on him because WBC ruled it the mandatory defense for Peter, hence King has no say in the matter. Vitali winning the belt and then retiring would leave it up for grabs for Virchis/Gomez winner, which in turn would make unification possible quicker than Peter milking the title for the next 3 years before fighting a real fighter.

That's a great scenario. But wouldn't it be be better if Peter was just fighting Wlad? That is the quickest way to unification. Why do we have to see Vitali get a shot at it, retire and leave it to Virchis/Gomez? They don't deserve it either. At least Peter is willing to fight anyone, which I can't say about a lot of fighters. Another thing, I don't care what the "boxing community" thinks happened in the first Toney fight. Does that change the fact that Peter only has one loss? No. Also, remember that he dominated the second fight which left no doubts as to who the winner of the series was. I'll say it again, anyone who wants Vitali to win isn't a fan of real fighters and doesn't want the title unified. If you want Wlad to unify the cheap way, then hope that Vitali wins, if you're someone who likes action and "real" fighters, hope for Peter.

[!!Captain]

That's a great scenario. But wouldn't it be be better if Peter was just fighting Wlad? That is the quickest way to unification. Why do we have to see Vitali get a shot at it, retire and leave it to Virchis/Gomez? They don't deserve it either. At least Peter is willing to fight anyone, which I can't say about a lot of fighters. Another thing, I don't care what the "boxing community" thinks happened in the first Toney fight. Does that change the fact that Peter only has one loss? No. Also, remember that he dominated the second fight which left no doubts as to who the winner of the series was. I'll say it again, anyone who wants Vitali to win isn't a fan of real fighters and doesn't want the title unified. If you want Wlad to unify the cheap way, then hope that Vitali wins, if you're someone who likes action and "real" fighters, hope for Peter.

You didn't read what I said carefully. Wlad/Peter will not happen for as long as Peter is King's fighter. Do you actually know who King is? You seem new to the sport. Oh, and btw, who said I want Wlad to unify?

[The Critic]

Boxing I think you overstate the reaction to Peter-Toney I. Plenty of people scored it for Peter. Toney's flash was illusory. Peter adjusted well and forced the issue. Peter landed the harder, more effective shots.

The second fight he left no unanswered questions and had eleven dominant rounds.

I agree about Gomez/Virchis though. They should eventualy fight for the WBC title.

[dans]

You didn't read what I said carefully. Wlad/Peter will not happen for as long as Peter is King's fighter. Do you actually know who King is? You seem new to the sport. Oh, and btw, who said I want Wlad to unify?

You're right man, who is Don King. Just because you have a bunch of points and picture of Vitali Bitchko doesn't mean you know more than me. By the way, I'm asking you honestly, what is your problem with Peter? Besides the fact that you think he lost the Toney fight.