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  • MakeDamnSure
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    #11
    Originally posted by rogelio1289
    i hope many does beat him. but in all fairness roy's first career fight was at i think jr middleweight. So for a 150 something lbs fighter goes on to win a heavyweight championship that is crazy stuff probably be another hundred years before it's done again. Also i believe going up in weight in the higher classes posses alot more difficulty and danger!
    Jones started at 154 I believe.. He weighed 190 lbs against Ruiz so it's like Roy Jones jumped 36 pounds from where he started..

    Pac started at 108 and if he fights Hatton at 140 , Pac have already added 32 pounds.. So it's almost similar.. The only difference is higher divisions are pretty slow which Jones capitalized it on with his speed and reflexes. Pac is still knocking out guys at 130 and 135 even with 1 shot...
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      #12
      Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
      Jones started at 154 I believe.. He weighed 190 lbs against Ruiz so it's like Roy Jones jumped 36 pounds from where he started..

      Pac started at 108 and if he fights Hatton at 140 , Pac have already added 32 pounds.. So it's almost similar.. The only difference is higher divisions are pretty slow which Jones capitalized it on with his speed and reflexes. Pac is still knocking out guys at 130 and 135 even with 1 shot...
      yeah but by how much was roy jones jr outweighed by against ruiz? pacquiao is in really no size disadvantage moving up they're almost all the same size in the lower weight classes.

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        #13
        Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
        Jones started at 154 I believe.. He weighed 190 lbs against Ruiz so it's like Roy Jones jumped 36 pounds from where he started..

        Pac started at 108 and if he fights Hatton at 140 , Pac have already added 32 pounds.. So it's almost similar.. The only difference is higher divisions are pretty slow which Jones capitalized it on with his speed and reflexes. Pac is still knocking out guys at 130 and 135 even with 1 shot...

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          #14
          Originally posted by rogelio1289
          yeah but by how much was roy jones jr outweighed by against ruiz? pacquiao is in really no size disadvantage moving up they're almost all the same size in the lower weight classes.
          Did you see how Incredible Hulk Diaz body was? Maybe you mean same height? But how about the built on Diaz or Hatton's body muscles?

          It doesn't matter how huge Ruiz was, Jones will beat him with speed, boxing and reflexes..

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            #15
            Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
            Jones started at 154 I believe.. He weighed 190 lbs against Ruiz so it's like Roy Jones jumped 36 pounds from where he started..

            Pac started at 108 and if he fights Hatton at 140 , Pac have already added 32 pounds.. So it's almost similar.. The only difference is higher divisions are pretty slow which Jones capitalized it on with his speed and reflexes. Pac is still knocking out guys at 130 and 135 even with 1 shot...
            He weighed 200 pounds against Ruiz, the scales were misaligned when he weighed in the first time, he was outweighed by 26 pounds.

            What Pacquiao has done is great as well though.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers
              He weighed 200 pounds against Ruiz, the scales were misaligned when he weighed in the first time, he was outweighed by 26 pounds.

              What Pacquiao has done is great as well though.
              So you mean during the fight? Pac weighed 147 during the fight with Diaz..

              Jones will still beat Ruiz with speed.. But KO? Proven Pac can KO any LW out there and I give Pac a chance of knocking out Hatton...

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                #17
                Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                So you mean during the fight? Pac weighed 147 during the fight with Diaz..

                Jones will still beat Ruiz with speed.. But KO? Proven Pac can KO any LW out there and I give Pac a chance of knocking out Hatton...
                He is correct. The evidence is in the Roy Jones Documentary- The Sweet Science. HBO does an unofficial weigh in right before the fight, and you can see that the "official" scales were wrong for Jones. The Jones camp including Jones, Merk and Shilestone make a huge point about this during this documentary.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                  So you mean during the fight? Pac weighed 147 during the fight with Diaz..

                  Jones will still beat Ruiz with speed.. But KO? Proven Pac can KO any LW out there and I give Pac a chance of knocking out Hatton...
                  He weighed 200 pounds on the day of the weigh in and the night of the fight when they reweighed him, Ruiz could have added a few pounds in between the weight in and the fight.

                  Pacquiao beat Diaz mainly with speed as well, he will also beat most of the other lightweights with speed and if he beats Hatton, he'll do it with speed, it's the speed of his punches along with the awkward angle that he punches from that makes him so effective at lightweight and possibly 140.

                  And Jones managed to hurt Ruiz.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    He weighed 200 pounds on the day of the weigh in and the night of the fight when they reweighed him, Ruiz could have added a few pounds in between the weight in and the fight.

                    Pacquiao beat Diaz mainly with speed as well, he will also beat most of the other lightweights with speed and if he beats Hatton, he'll do it with speed, it's the speed of his punches along with the awkward angle that he punches from that makes him so effective at lightweight and possibly 140.

                    And Jones managed to hurt Ruiz.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bsrizpac

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