Top Rank vs. Golden Boy: Cold War is Back On?

[MakeDamnSure]

Hatton and De La Hoya bring in A LOT more money then Pacquiao and if they want to save money then that's understandable. Arum can still make a lot of money in Houston and he should stop complaining.

Top rank has the better boxer's, but Golden Boy is making more money. Anyway, why are you guys blaiming Golden Boy, it's Arum who is making these useless accusations. If MGM doesn't want to pay Top Rank can go somewhere else and it's not Golden Boy's false.

He's a sore loser and needs to suck it up

Remeber when Golden Boy and the AEG Partnership? AEG owns more than 2000 venues in the US..

[warp1432]

Ok that doesn't change the facts that MGM needs to cut back and Arum is being a sore loser. They are both losing out, but Arum needs De La Hoya. Especially if he wants Cotto to become a superstar.

Golden Boy has nothing to gain by making Arum out of business so why would they make way to make it so Pacquiao-Valero doesn't land in vegas when they know it could make money some where else? It takes good money to put up a fight and MGM will be busy with the other two mega fights.

Why does everyone seem to be on Arum's side whenever he complains? It's always like "Oh damn golden boy. They are ruining the sport." Arum is just being a sore loser and a crybaby.

If anything Arum is ruining the sport by threatening to cut off business with Golden Boy. Schaffier might have complained that Marquez got robbed, but Arum would have done the same thing with Pacquiao. **** he already did during Mosley-De La Hoya 2.

[horge]

Why does everyone seem to be on Arum's side whenever he complains?

I'm guessing that it's...
not so much a matter of siding WITH Bob, as siding AGAINST Oscar.
There's still mistrust over the RING magazine buyout.


h.

[warp1432]

In which they haven't done anything to favor a golden boy fighter. They still had the same policies they've always had.

[MakeDamnSure]

Ring Belt prevented the Casamayor-Campbell from happening.. They doesn't want to lose that belt to their own roster..

I disagree, GBP needs Top Rank right now than Top Rank needs GBP.... Top Rank has the roster GoldenBoy needs to match-up with in terms of PPV... Hatton vs Pac can take place in England and GBP will not be part of it.. Pavlik vs Abraham, Cotto vs Margarito the winner facing Clottey or Williams.... Arum control the Lower Weights.. Oscar provides money but who cares, they haven't created a single star since they starting promoting boxing.

Look at Casmayor defending his ring belt against Golden Boy roster and snubbing Campbell.

[warp1432]

Ring Belt prevented the Casamayor-Campbell from happening.. They doesn't want to lose that belt to their own roster..

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They could have easily done the same if they had the WBC belt or any other belt. Casamayor didn't really want to fight Campbell, he wanted a money fight. He was making more money against Juan Diaz then he would have against Nate Campbell. King did a purse bid in which Casamayor would have gotten 530k compared to the 620k he would have been making against Juan Diaz.

If campbell that badly wanted to fight Casamayor, he should have offered more money.

I disagree, GBP needs Top Rank right now than Top Rank needs GBP.... Top Rank has the roster GoldenBoy needs to match-up with in terms of PPV... Hatton vs Pac can take place in England and GBP will not be part of it.. Pavlik vs Abraham, Cotto vs Margarito the winner facing Clottey or Williams.... Arum control the Lower Weights.. Oscar provides money but who cares, they haven't created a single star since they starting promoting boxing

Even though Hatton is signed by Golden Boy

Also the biggest fight money wise would probably be Cotto-De La Hoya. Oh and they help produce Israel Vasquez into a star by getting him the Marquez fights. Lineres is pretty close.

Not to mention that Golden Boy is pretty much a 4 year old company since they've been producing big shows (DLH-Hopkins was the first mega event). Who the hell did Arum establish in the first 4 years he was promoting.

[MakeDamnSure]

They could have easily done the same if they had the WBC belt or any other belt. Casamayor didn't really want to fight Campbell, he wanted a money fight. He was making more money against Juan Diaz then he would have against Nate Campbell. King did a purse bid in which Casamayor would have gotten 530k compared to the 620k he would have been making against Juan Diaz.

If campbell that badly wanted to fight Casamayor, he should have offered more money.




Even though Hatton is signed by Golden Boy

Also the biggest fight money wise would probably be Cotto-De La Hoya. Oh and they help produce Israel Vasquez into a star by getting him the Marquez fights. Lineres is pretty close.

Not to mention that Golden Boy is pretty much a 4 year old company since they've been producing big shows (DLH-Hopkins was the first mega event). Who the hell did Arum establish in the first 4 years he was promoting.

I won't argue with the history of Arum... It's not even comparable dude.. You know how many Top Rank fighters has produced since the Ali era.... I agree Oscar is the money ball but don't forget Oscar and Floyd were made by Arum.

Only in the US GBP will have promotional agreement with Hatton... Hatton vs Pac in England, GBP will not be any part of it..

[warp1432]

I know, Top Rank has the better history, but can you tell me who Top Rank brought along and made a superstar in the first 4 years they became a company?

I'm pretty sure Hatton is signed with Golden Boy. Why did Golden Boy have a part with Hatton's hometown defense then???

[MakeDamnSure]

I know, Top Rank has the better history, but can you tell me who Top Rank brought along and made a superstar in the first 4 years they became a company?

I'm pretty sure Hatton is signed with Golden Boy. Why did Golden Boy have a part with Hatton's hometown defense then???

Golden Boy provide the US TV network.. I read on some news and Arum mentioned that a fight with Hatton in England, GPB will not be part of it unless it will be in the US..

I don't know... Just search for it... GBP sucks at making stars.. They tend to feed them to the lions.. Their Money fighters are on the verge of retiring.. All their fighters are established when GBP signed them

I'll ask you, which promotional company do you like to watch right now Top Rank or Golden Boy?

[mrpain81]

Sure its nice to talk **** about Delahoya since the guy has two faces and put on the worst undercard in the history of PPV when he fought PBF, but fact of the matter is GBP is the future and it looks like they are learning from their mistakes and looking to branch out with the sport. Delahoya has said he wants to start a program for fighters pention and showing the fighters how the purses are distributed, Arum loves to talk a good game but lets not forget how much of **** he has put out himself.

Butterbean/Mia Stjohn on all Delahoya Undercards for years
Delahoya vs Campas PPV
Chavez Jr PPV against bums - exploiting his fans
Margarito vs Cotto - Undercard is total ****
Pac vs Diaz - Undercard was weak and main event was also weak for PPV
Pac vs Solis - PPV
Morales vs Reynante Jamili - PPV
Morales vs Juan Carlos Ramirez - PPV
Morales vs Espadas 2 - PPV
Morales vs David Diaz - PPV
Maskaev vs Rahman 2 - PPV

90% of the Versus cards he put out were total dog**** and he was getting a huge license fee and charging high ticket prices to the local fans.

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Arum talks a good game about putting boxing on network tv and blah,blah,blah then he does the opposite lining up his pocket book.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." - Bob Arum