Where does Kostya Tszyu fit in?

[poeticlsykuac]

I was wondering you look down all the boxing greats at 140(I know I am leaving a ton out just a bit burnt out):
Taylor
Chavez
Pryor
Tszyu
Duran

A lot of 140 pounders like Mayweather, DLH, Mosley(skipped entirely) etc. skipped through it quickly, the last guy to truly clean out the division was Kostya Tszyu. How does he fit in, he did fight everyone at the time and beat em. He never got compared to greats but he was a very special fighter

Just wondering what you guys think.

[Dan...]

I don't know about never being compared to the greats. I have heard Kostya labelled one of the best 140 pounders of all time on numerous occasions.

To be honest I would have him pretty high up there on an all time 140 pounder list, although I admit I have not seen enough of the other great fighters in that division to make a fully informed judgement. I personally would have him above JCC, but I know plenty wouldn't.

[poeticlsykuac]

I don't know about never being compared to the greats. I have heard Kostya labelled one of the best 140 pounders of all time on numerous occasions.

To be honest I would have him pretty high up there on an all time 140 pounder list, although I admit I have not seen enough of the other great fighters in that division to make a fully informed judgement. I personally would have him above JCC, but I know plenty wouldn't.

He was thrown out there but not in seriousness as being a great. Dude was prolly the 140 pounders hardest puncher ever(if you count efficiency and strength).

[Left Hook Tua]

I was wondering you look down all the boxing greats at 140(I know I am leaving a ton out just a bit burnt out):
Taylor
Chavez
Pryor
Tszyu
Duran

A lot of 140 pounders like Mayweather, DLH, Mosley(skipped entirely) etc. skipped through it quickly, the last guy to truly clean out the division was Kostya Tszyu. How does he fit in, he did fight everyone at the time and beat em. He never got compared to greats but he was a very special fighter

Just wondering what you guys think.

duran fought at 140?

natural skills and ability

1. pryor
2. taylor
3. chavez
4. tszyu

resume and legacy

1. chavez
2. pryor
3. tszyu
4. taylor

[Guest]

duran fought at 140?

natural skills and ability

1. pryor
2. taylor
3. chavez
4. tszyu

resume and legacy

1. chavez
2. pryor
3. tszyu
4. taylor

I thought Zoo was a great boxer, but after he fought Judah he fought once a year and lived on his name forever unril he met Hatton.
I'd hear so many gym tales about him from 1999 on but after Judah I swear he just phoned it in.
That's kind of a sore spot with me.

[Left Hook Tua]

I thought Zoo was a great boxer, but after he fought Judah he fought once a year and lived on his name forever unril he met Hatton.
I'd hear so many gym tales about him from 1999 on but after Judah I swear he just phoned it in.
That's kind of a sore spot with me.

kostya was very skilled. he was one of my favorites. i consider him a great.

my favorites are all over the place......

but anyways i couldn't have him over pryor because of what he did to arguello (alexis is another one of my favorites)

i can't bring myself to rate him over the great julio.

and with what meldrick did to juliio i can't rate him under kostya either.

my list is kinda biased because of my views on arguello and chavez.

[Left Hook Tua]

this is a great thread.

no one wants to talk about Kostya? sad.

bump.

[Silencers]

I don't think he's the greatest at 140, top 10 maybe but as jreckoning said, he should have fought more often and the Phillips loss will always be a black mark on his resume.

[BennyST]

He was definitely a great at 140. Duran never fought at 140 by the way. Jumped straight from 135 to 147. Tszyu was ducked a lot by most of the champs on his way up and missed out on many fights that he should of been having and ended up only fighting a couple of times across a year early on.

Apart from that though, he is most certainly one of the best ever there. Most people don't realise how many names he fought there especially very early on. He's one of the very few boxers to have been fighting some really great champs by his tenth fight!

I still rank him just below the usual guys simply for the losses he had that he shouldn't have had. The Phillips loss was one he should never have lost. He had been training bad when he lost that and changed his game after it, but, nonetheless, he did lose. The Hatton loss is a bit more understandable, him being 36 years old and only having fought once previously in a few years with injuries on and off. He did pretty damn good in fact. Again though, Hatton is not a fighter he should have lost to. He really should have given it up after Mitchell. I think the reason he got up for that fight was because he had a personal vendetta to settle with Mitchell.

Apart from those ****** losses he is easily up there among the best and on his best night could have taken anyone that fought at 140 ever I believe.

[Dan...]

I don't think he's the greatest at 140, top 10 maybe but as jreckoning said, he should have fought more often and the Phillips loss will always be a black mark on his resume.

Please explain to me how his loss to Phillips means so much?

Especially when older fighters are allowed to lose an alarming amount of times, sometimes to fighters they should beat, yet their legacies remain in tact.