If Pavlik beats Abraham, should he move up permanently?

**GodOfWarII** · 06-30-2008, 08:20 PM

I disagree personally, I think he should move up to 168 and either call out Calzaghe if Calzaghe is even around anymore and if he has the balls to get in the arena with the ghost. Or fight some competition at 168 and try to win some belts, theres tough competition at 168 still, Kessler and Bute. But I don't think Kessler has a belt anymore, so I'd go with Bute. I see something very special in Lucian Bute though, something that I hope he shows when he fights a good fighter like kessler and or Pavlik.

**MELLY-MEL...** · 06-30-2008, 08:22 PM

fight sturm, unify, than move up.

**Pullcounter** · 06-30-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by dc6112

If Pavlik faces Abraham, and wins convincingly, should he permanently move up to 168 or should he continue to fight at 160? I think he should take a few more fights at 160, including Winky, maybe Sturm, and then definitely move up for good.

only reason he should move up is to fight calzaghe or if he can't make 160 anymore. he should unify 160 and defend there a few more times against worthy opponents.

**pesticid** · 06-30-2008, 09:15 PM

I think he should fight Winky, Arthur, Sturm if Sturm is cool with it of course. He could fight Mora as well. I mean why go to 168 so early. Even if he goes people will demand of him to face Bute and Kessler immediately.

**Guest** · 06-30-2008, 09:16 PM

He should fight at his best weight for himself. If he can make weight and feels fine, he should rock 160 as long as he can. If it's a struggle, nothing wrong with 168.
I don't see why fighters have to chase people out of their weight class to prove a point.
Why can't they just get credit for beating whose around in their division?

**GodOfWarII** · 06-30-2008, 09:18 PM

I want him to move up if he gets passed AA, or AA move up. I want one of them to try atleast lure Calzaghe into a fight... Btw, I don't know I got much love for Calzaghe and I know some Calzaghe fans here don't exactly like me and think I'm against him but I really do like him as fighter. I just wish certain fights would happen with him in it and not I'm fighting roy and then retiring... And where I live its in America but theres alot of Calzaghe fans who still surpport him but they also wish he really took the pavlik fight and then theres some calzaghe fans in denial and tell me in real life that it was pavliks decision not to fight calzaghe... And I keep pointing to the fact that enzo calzaghe has already stated that he doesn't want his son to ever fight pavlik. It just pisses me off when fights I want to see and most everyone else wants to see don't get made for god knows what reason.

Theres not one person on boxingscene who doesn't want to see Calzaghe/Pavlik happen, but one of those boxers I'm not sure still is scared about losing there 0. I fear it might be the boxer I've rooted for over the years.

**warp1432** · 06-30-2008, 09:43 PM

160 because without Pavlik, it's pretty much empty. Then if he sticks around and Angulo/Kirkland/other 154 prospects ever move up, that'd be good.

If Pavlik beats Abraham, should he move up permanently?