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  • GodOfWarII
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    #21
    Originally posted by Domain
    Runners are every fighters worst nightmare...ask Curtis Stevens when he tried to fight a runner andre dirrell.

    They should pull a red card out and warn a fighter if they do not engage often they will get fined.

    It's cheating in my opinion
    , yet they allow them to do it. I just find it lame when a boxer throws a bunch of punches then runs around the ring wasting time off the clock because its not fun for the viewers and its the biggest ***** style of fighting ever. It's like did these ****tards except manny pacquiao forget that we basically pay there bills when we watch them fight even on free hbo/showtime were basically paying there bills.

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    • Left Hook Tua
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      #22
      Originally posted by Domain
      Runners are every fighters worst nightmare...ask Curtis Stevens when he tried to fight a runner andre dirrell.

      They should pull a red card out and warn a fighter if they do not engage often they will get fined.
      each redcard 10% of your purse?

      i like......

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      • Domain
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        #23
        Originally posted by GodOfWarII

        It's cheating in my opinion
        , yet they allow them to do it. I just find it lame when a boxer throws a bunch of punches then runs around the ring wasting time off the clock because its not fun for the viewers and its the biggest ***** style of fighting ever. It's like did these ****tards except manny pacquiao forget that we basically pay there bills when we watch them fight even on free hbo/showtime were basically paying there bills.
        running should be deducted points just like over clinching.

        clinching should only really be used when you are stunned to buy time...but this running **** like that Andre Dirrell vs Curtis stevens fight is a disgrace! that guy ran like he was being chased by a lion.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GodOfWarII

          It's cheating in my opinion
          , yet they allow them to do it. I just find it lame when a boxer throws a bunch of punches then runs around the ring wasting time off the clock because its not fun for the viewers and its the biggest ***** style of fighting ever. It's like did these ****tards except manny pacquiao forget that we basically pay there bills when we watch them fight even on free hbo/showtime were basically paying there bills.

          show how do you feel about bernard "the tranquilizer" hopkins' "win this fight look good in the next fight which is hardly ever" policy?

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          • MANGLER
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            #25
            Guzman would be Pac's toughest opponent, and his style will keep the fight from bein made until it has to be made (like the 2 of them unifyin 135 or Guzman bein Pac's mandatory). JMM is a cautious boxer, but he was still willin to use that style to effectively stand and fight wit Pac, which made those 2 fights very close and very exciting. Guzman is a boxer who sticks and moves, and that would make it a difficult and likely boring fight. I like Guzman, but he better beat Nate and do it decisively if he's gonna get into the Pac sweepstakes.

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            • Bogler
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              #26
              valero is being mentioned since katsidis,diaz,campbell,jmm,casa,guzman are all tied up already in the next few months. guzman needs to win against campbell to be more marketable and have a dream fight w/ pac.

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              • shadeyfizzle
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                #27
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                hit me up when guzman-pacquiao gets made. we'll put some points on it.

                guzman is good and he's very slick but he has no power to keep manny away.

                slick is good against slower fighters but manny has handspeed to go with his power. guzman has a good chin but can he take a 135 punch? manny has a 135 punch.
                Correction. Lord knows Pacquiao hits harder than Calzaghe so actually he has a light heavyweight punch

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                • shadeyfizzle
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mangler
                  Guzman would be Pac's toughest opponent, and his style will keep the fight from bein made until it has to be made (like the 2 of them unifyin 135 or Guzman bein Pac's mandatory). JMM is a cautious boxer, but he was still willin to use that style to effectively stand and fight wit Pac, which made those 2 fights very close and very exciting. Guzman is a boxer who sticks and moves, and that would make it a difficult and likely boring fight. I like Guzman, but he better beat Nate and do it decisively if he's gonna get into the Pac sweepstakes.
                  LOL@ this logic.

                  So you're assuming that Guzman would have belts while Manny has 1 and the fight wont be made unless its Guzman thats the mandatory instead of the other way around?? LOL!!!

                  I bet "IF" Pacquiao beats Guzman we'd hear Guzman was past prime since he's a year older than Pac following this logic. Lol

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #29
                    WHAAAAA T?????

                    Pac kills both Cassamayor and Campbell(with apologies to ryan) with EASE if casa doest go the way of the late Agapito Sanchez.

                    I wouldnt say anything about Guzman coz his Hype Machine is at Tye Fields level so lets just wait for it.
                    Last edited by miron_lang; 06-30-2008, 02:18 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Brandish
                      come on folks we all know pac is not the best fighter on the planet. he cannot fight these guys and expect to win:

                      1. nate campbell
                      2. joan guzman
                      3. joel casamayor (even at his advanced age)

                      now pac can beat these guys with movement and fast boxing skills:

                      4. Juan diaz
                      5. Make Katsidis
                      6. David Diaz
                      7. Ricky hatton
                      8. edwin valero

                      pac can beat those guys but arum has to keep him away from the three fighters mentioned above.

                      with that said I am looking forward to pac vs valero (good matchup before hatton fight)

                      and pac vs hatton which pac can win if he boxes and moves.

                      if pac gets by these two then a pac vs floyd fight can be made for late 09
                      yes its about money. biggest money fight and statis is hatton.
                      nate,joan and joel don't draw.

                      pacquiao brought everything up to 135. and must be getting his gloves from the same guy as cotto. the way deep cuts miraculously appear in early rounds.
                      ive been wrong in the past thinking that pacquiao would stumble. but i still wonder now about his power against hatton. and hatton can work the body. mannys been hurt to the body.
                      pac can certainly out box hatton.

                      vid clips i've seen of valero and his level of opponents leads me to think
                      pacquiao will have fun with him even if he takes him lightly.

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