1988 Flashback...

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

FLASHBACK, USA National Amateur Rankings, 125 pounds. June 1988:
1. Carl Daniels, St. Louis
2. Kelcie Banks, Chicago
3. Ed Hopson, St. Louis
4. Frank Pena, Colorado
5. Sharmba Mitchell, Washington D.C.
6. Ivan Robinson, Philadelphia
7. Myron Walker, Detroit
8. Derek Little, South Carolina
9. Runnel Doll, U.S. Army
10 (tie). Kevin Kelley, Flushing, New York
Tony Braxton, U.S. Marines

Interesting to look back at them then and look at where they ended up many years later (in relation to where they were with each other back then)

[Lazy Liberal]

lots of recognizable names.

Kelcie Banks was a bust.


Hopson got a piece of the crown but got KO'd by Patterson , i believe.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

FLASHBACK, USA National Amateur Rankings, 125 pounds. June 1988:
1. Carl Daniels, St. Louis
2. Kelcie Banks, Chicago
3. Ed Hopson, St. Louis
4. Frank Pena, Colorado
5. Sharmba Mitchell, Washington D.C.
6. Ivan Robinson, Philadelphia
7. Myron Walker, Detroit
8. Derek Little, South Carolina
9. Runnel Doll, U.S. Army
10 (tie). Kevin Kelley, Flushing, New York
Tony Braxton, U.S. Marines

B]

Yeah, after close to 500 amateur fights Kelcie was kind of burnt out by the time he went pro. You also had Kelly, Mitchell, Daniels, Hopson, Robinson, in there. TOUGH class!!

[eazy_mas]

Yeah, after close to 500 amateur fights Kelcie was kind of burnt out by the time he went pro. You also had Kelly, Mitchell, Daniels, Hopson, Robinson, in there. TOUGH class!!

yeah remember hearing a debate like conversation in tv similar to what you say. but it on swimming.


They where talking about competition for age less than 12 or 14 dont remember but the coach said something that i still remember, he metaphor is this:
" It better to cook the meat nice and slowly then quickly and burnt."

In other word he says there is so much pressure for him as a coach to develop kid in swimming under that age for competition. It tires them and making the burnt and less motivated e****ally in a sport like swimming.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Yeah, HUNDREDS of amateur fights from a pre teen age up until you are a fully grown man...and THEN turn pro, is a tough schedule for anyone

[eazy_mas]

the good thing about amateur is there passion for sport. when they reach pro it become more commercial and fake. They lose there heart too much pressure from fans promoters treat you as a product and investment.

they lose it

[ben41193]

thus the delima with amature boxing, my friend MAFIA SLADE ( see video below) is having this problem he doesnt know if he should fight alot for experiance or fight sparingly to save himself for the pro ranks, he has about 140 fights and 6 losses, he is verry good keep and eye out for him, again its MAFIA SLADE

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Six losses in 140 amateur bouts...but his name doesnt appear anywhere on google.com in relation to amateur boxing except for an appearance on a local amateur card in Ohio...and he leans forward when he throws his punches, and he has his right arm CONSTANTLY by his neck and he throws left hands? I seriously doubt he is telling you the full truth about his amateur background. With that many fights and that type of win/loss ratio he would have been qualifying through Region 5 for national tournaments. Are you from Columbus?

[ben41193]

Six losses in 140 amateur bouts...but his name doesnt appear anywhere on google.com in relation to amateur boxing...and he leans forward when he throws his punches, and he has his right arm CONSTANTLY by his neck and he throws left hands? I seriously doubt he is telling you the truth about his amateur background

Ice man this video is a few years back, and he isnt open yet, and columbus is a weak area to fight in, Its hard to get recognition around here, And yeah ive picked up on that too, but this video is 2 years old, And i have worked with him a bit and he has improved greatly. And Hey where do u come across amature rankings anyways ive been looking for them for a while.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

PS, I have been to Columbus MANY times over the years, usually stay on Olentangy River Road