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  • nycbigdog2
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    #31
    Originally posted by nelsoncm
    This is one for the books 10-7 for a round where a fighter was stunned due to a single punch but didn't hit the canvass. I bet you'd score it 10-4 if Pac hit the canvass and slipped again on his way up.
    You see, me and my fellow Mexicanos are the only ones that know anything about boxing.... Boxing insiders like us utilize the pre-scoring system... Even before the first PAC-JMM fight we had already scored the fight 118-109 JMM... And, as the fight started and progressed we add and subtract as we see fit... Clearly its the fairest way to score a fight and thus we can circumvent the obvious PAC nuthugging LAS VEGAS judges... This is done simply because of the over population of Pinoys as compared to Mexicans in Vegas as well as the entire West Coast... Also, because, if you look at Google Earth, Philippines is so much closer to the American boarder than Mexico, and Jose Sulaiman is Filipino, as well as the WBC being based in Philippines.... Therefore, clearly Mexicans have to take precautions of obvious biased judging....

    Anyway, yeah, those so called Pac Knockdowns had no impact on the fight... I believe the canvass was made in Asia, so it was obviously Pro-PAC which unfairly led to the JMM slips... Even if you scored the knock downs for PAC, that first round should only be scored 10-10, maybe 10-9 at best... Lets be honest, Marquez bravely got up each time and kept blocking those straight left with his face.... It was a ****ing brilliant and common sense dictates that aggressive defense should be awarded, so I had that round even....

    In the second fight, that should not be counted a kd.... For the simple reason that Marquez didnt see that punch coming and he didnt mean to have his legs in the air like a $5 hooker.... I mean come on man, JMM ran into that punch and its not like PAC ment to throw it... How could Pac be awarded for something he didnt intend to throw??? So, I scored that round even as well...

    As far as the rest of the rounds, man what a "tour de force" showing for JMM... In the first fight, I had JMM kd'ing PAC in rounds 3,5,8, and twice in the 12.... Yea, yea, Pac didnt actually go down, but like I said, JMM "SHOULD/WOULD/COULD" have knocked down PAC therefore, thats enough for me... The second fight was a landslide as well.... I had JMM TKOing PAC in the 9th round...... I really felt Roach was going to throw in the towel because of JMM's intense and sheer aggressiveness of going backwards and counterpunching...It was ****ing scary, just like Tyson and Marciano in the early days....Yes, I know you're going to say that in reality the fight went the distance, but like I said, fate and destiny robbed JMM so Im choosing to see it how it is in a parallel universe....
    Last edited by nycbigdog2; 06-26-2008, 09:12 AM.

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    • Zn00p
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      #32
      Originally posted by nycbigdog2
      You see, me and my fellow Mexicanos are the only ones that know anything about boxing.... Boxing insiders like us utilize the pre-scoring system... Even before the first PAC-JMM fight we had already scored the fight 118-109 JMM... And, as the fight started and progressed we add and subtract as we see fit... Clearly its the fairest way to score a fight and thus we can circumvent the obvious PAC nuthugging LAS VEGAS judges... This is done simply because of the over population of Pinoys as compared to Mexicans in Vegas as well as the entire West Coast... Also, because, if you look at Google Earth, Philippines is so much closer to the American boarder than Mexico, and Jose Sulaiman is Filipino, as well as the WBC being based in Philippines.... Therefore, clearly Mexicans have to take precautions of obvious biased judging....

      Anyway, yeah, those so called Pac Knockdowns had no impact on the fight... I believe the canvass was made in Asia, so it was obviously Pro-PAC which unfairly led to the JMM slips... Even if you scored the knock downs for PAC, that first round should only be scored 10-10, maybe 10-9 at best... Lets be honest, Marquez bravely got up each time and kept blocking those straight left with his face.... It was a ****ing brilliant and common sense dictates that aggressive defense should be awarded, so I had that round even....

      In the second fight, that should not be counted a kd.... For the simple reason that Marquez didnt see that punch coming and he didnt mean to have his legs in the air like a $5 hooker.... I mean come on man, JMM ran into that punch and its not like PAC ment to throw it... How could Pac be awarded for something he didnt intend to throw??? So, I scored that round even as well...

      As far as the rest of the rounds, man what a "tour de force" showing for JMM... In the first fight, I had JMM ko'ing PAC in rounds 3,5,8, and twice in the 12.... Yea, yea, Pac didnt actually go down, but like I said, JMM "SHOULD/WOULD/COULD" have knocked down PAC therefore, thats enough for me... The second fight was a landslide as well.... I had JMM TKOing PAC in the 9th round......Yes, I know you're going to say that in reality the fight went the distance, but like I said, fate and destiny robbed JMM so Im choosing to see it how it is in a parallel universe....
      This guy is really funny... keep it coming... where did you bought that "thing" you're smokin'? hahahaha

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      • DiegoFuego
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        #33
        you do realize he's kidding, right?

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        • Papa Ace
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          #34
          I always said this will happen, JMM shouldve been patient and didnt acted like a ***** chasing Manny at lightweight. Now he has to get past Casa who can upset him. A Casa win will be nightmare for him. Wrong move again Juanita.

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            #35
            If they both win their LW title matches a unifiaction 3rd fight is huge. I'd love to see it, but honestly, the Nate-Guzman winner should have 1st dibs on the winner of JMM-Casa, which is for the world title not just a belt.

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            • nelsoncm
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              #36
              Originally posted by nycbigdog2
              You see, me and my fellow Mexicanos are the only ones that know anything about boxing.... Boxing insiders like us utilize the pre-scoring system... Even before the first PAC-JMM fight we had already scored the fight 118-109 JMM... And, as the fight started and progressed we add and subtract as we see fit... Clearly its the fairest way to score a fight and thus we can circumvent the obvious PAC nuthugging LAS VEGAS judges... This is done simply because of the over population of Pinoys as compared to Mexicans in Vegas as well as the entire West Coast... Also, because, if you look at Google Earth, Philippines is so much closer to the American boarder than Mexico, and Jose Sulaiman is Filipino, as well as the WBC being based in Philippines.... Therefore, clearly Mexicans have to take precautions of obvious biased judging....

              Anyway, yeah, those so called Pac Knockdowns had no impact on the fight... I believe the canvass was made in Asia, so it was obviously Pro-PAC which unfairly led to the JMM slips... Even if you scored the knock downs for PAC, that first round should only be scored 10-10, maybe 10-9 at best... Lets be honest, Marquez bravely got up each time and kept blocking those straight left with his face.... It was a ****ing brilliant and common sense dictates that aggressive defense should be awarded, so I had that round even....

              In the second fight, that should not be counted a kd.... For the simple reason that Marquez didnt see that punch coming and he didnt mean to have his legs in the air like a $5 hooker.... I mean come on man, JMM ran into that punch and its not like PAC ment to throw it... How could Pac be awarded for something he didnt intend to throw??? So, I scored that round even as well...

              As far as the rest of the rounds, man what a "tour de force" showing for JMM... In the first fight, I had JMM kd'ing PAC in rounds 3,5,8, and twice in the 12.... Yea, yea, Pac didnt actually go down, but like I said, JMM "SHOULD/WOULD/COULD" have knocked down PAC therefore, thats enough for me... The second fight was a landslide as well.... I had JMM TKOing PAC in the 9th round...... I really felt Roach was going to throw in the towel because of JMM's intense and sheer aggressiveness of going backwards and counterpunching...It was ****ing scary, just like Tyson and Marciano in the early days....Yes, I know you're going to say that in reality the fight went the distance, but like I said, fate and destiny robbed JMM so Im choosing to see it how it is in a parallel universe....

              This should be a fair justification of why we have the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, IBA, WBF. After the first solid punch by Marquez in round 1, ref Joe Cortez should have stopped the fight to avoid a retaliation by Manny, which of course, was great acting by Marquez. He should have won best actor-boxing category for the 3 kd's. He was never hurt... really... In fact, JMM's thick lips after the fight was intentionally done by make up to con Manny into thinking he hit JMM many times in the face.

              We should have a new set of rules and a new division. Should be PUBO, or Parallel Universe Boxing Organization. Marquez should be P4P # 1 and every hit by him should count as a KD.

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                #37
                Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                Is Pacman going to fight again in 2008? I have no idea who he would fight since Hatton, Marquez, Guzman, Casamayor and Campbell are all set for September dates. Maybe a December fight with somebody?
                marquez , diaz , maybe valero? in 2008.

                marquez/casa winner , campbell/guzman winner and/or hatton in 2009?

                very nice.......

                it'd be tough and i don't know if he could pull it off but if he did......

                my nuthuggery of pac would be so justified.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Papa Ace
                  I always said this will happen, JMM shouldve been patient and didnt acted like a ***** chasing Manny at lightweight. Now he has to get past Casa who can upset him. A Casa win will be nightmare for him. Wrong move again Juanita.
                  kinda agree but it doesn't hurt manny too much because win or lose marquez/manny will sell. morales/manny trilogy sold gangbusters and it was for a wbc international belt for god's sake.

                  juanma should've stayed at 130. if manny gets the 135 belt he has to give up the 130 belt. juan ma could've fought valero , soto or guzman for it instead.

                  valero and soto is less risky for juan ma than a vet casa at 135.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by nycbigdog2
                    You see, me and my fellow Mexicanos are the only ones that know anything about boxing.... Boxing insiders like us utilize the pre-scoring system... Even before the first PAC-JMM fight we had already scored the fight 118-109 JMM... And, as the fight started and progressed we add and subtract as we see fit... Clearly its the fairest way to score a fight and thus we can circumvent the obvious PAC nuthugging LAS VEGAS judges... This is done simply because of the over population of Pinoys as compared to Mexicans in Vegas as well as the entire West Coast... Also, because, if you look at Google Earth, Philippines is so much closer to the American boarder than Mexico, and Jose Sulaiman is Filipino, as well as the WBC being based in Philippines.... Therefore, clearly Mexicans have to take precautions of obvious biased judging....

                    Anyway, yeah, those so called Pac Knockdowns had no impact on the fight... I believe the canvass was made in Asia, so it was obviously Pro-PAC which unfairly led to the JMM slips... Even if you scored the knock downs for PAC, that first round should only be scored 10-10, maybe 10-9 at best... Lets be honest, Marquez bravely got up each time and kept blocking those straight left with his face.... It was a ****ing brilliant and common sense dictates that aggressive defense should be awarded, so I had that round even....

                    In the second fight, that should not be counted a kd.... For the simple reason that Marquez didnt see that punch coming and he didnt mean to have his legs in the air like a $5 hooker.... I mean come on man, JMM ran into that punch and its not like PAC ment to throw it... How could Pac be awarded for something he didnt intend to throw??? So, I scored that round even as well...

                    As far as the rest of the rounds, man what a "tour de force" showing for JMM... In the first fight, I had JMM kd'ing PAC in rounds 3,5,8, and twice in the 12.... Yea, yea, Pac didnt actually go down, but like I said, JMM "SHOULD/WOULD/COULD" have knocked down PAC therefore, thats enough for me... The second fight was a landslide as well.... I had JMM TKOing PAC in the 9th round...... I really felt Roach was going to throw in the towel because of JMM's intense and sheer aggressiveness of going backwards and counterpunching...It was ****ing scary, just like Tyson and Marciano in the early days....Yes, I know you're going to say that in reality the fight went the distance, but like I said, fate and destiny robbed JMM so Im choosing to see it how it is in a parallel universe....
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