Kelly Pavlik vs. Paul Williams Turned Down by Top Rank

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  • oldgringo
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    #101
    Trinidad and his knockout victim Maurice Blocker as well.

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      #102
      Pavlik would destroy Williams and win by brutal KO.

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      • Allucard
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        #103
        Originally posted by Live Dog
        Paul should stick to being anorexic. He would get hurt at 160.
        If he wants a short career yeah, move up. I just hope he's not another meat head like Judah, cause he's got talent and we're running scarce.

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        • Mr.Smith
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          #104
          Originally posted by tyde13
          ridiculous to say PAVLIK "ducked" any1, just as much as i'd find it hard to believe PW "ducked" any1. bottom line is, once money becomes a major issue in a fight, anything can happen.

          we have yet to hear from either fighter, an no predictions on who would win, but its the promoter's job to make their guy look good. like i've already said, dlh will get the cotto-margo winner (fair or not) so that leaves PW w/o a dancing partner for the forseeable future.

          personally, i would've liked to see dlh-pw, margo-cotto, then the 2 winners fight. and i dont wanna hear pw is not a big enough name for dlh, b/c who is steve forbes???
          True dat but, DLH's excuse would be the Forbes fight was a tune up. If I were Oscar for my last fight I would rather Cotto. I like Williams but, Cotto's name would be better on his resume. He just needs to get past Tony which is no easy task.

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          • juandabomb
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            #105
            Pavlik 5KO over Williams,if it were to happen

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            • mellow_mood
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              #106
              Originally posted by warp1432
              If they want to move up to Middle, Winky wright is always avaliable
              and always avoidable

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              • Ray  Ray
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                #107
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                It was recently revealed by Goossen-Tutor that Top Rank turned down a possible bout between WBO welterweight champion Paul Williams vs. WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik. Williams was willing to move up by two weight classes to make the fight. Williams is seen as a welterweight freak due to his physical dimensions. He stands at a near 6'3 and has the reach of a heavyweight. [details]
                WOW! That is a bad match up and Williams could get hurt by Pavlik. I'm glad that fight didnt happen.

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                • Njord777
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                  #108
                  I agree that Paul is a large man who forces himself to make 147- but doesn't this mean he could be stronger at a higher weight? I'm not in any way suggesting he could swing with Pavlik, but if we all agree Paul probably drains himself so he can be a welterweight, couldn't he be more comfortable and maybe even stronger at, say, junior middleweight? Just a thought.

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                  • Live Dog
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Njord777
                    I agree that Paul is a large man who forces himself to make 147- but doesn't this mean he could be stronger at a higher weight? I'm not in any way suggesting he could swing with Pavlik, but if we all agree Paul probably drains himself so he can be a welterweight, couldn't he be more comfortable and maybe even stronger at, say, junior middleweight? Just a thought.
                    Which in turn means his opponent is also stronger.....

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                    • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Shalafi
                      OK?? your post doesn't really make much sense, first of all Williams is an oddity and to a huge degree a disadvantage against any Welterweight because of his size, he is practically cheating his way in that weight division.

                      As stated here before he started fighting at 160 which is more likely his true weight class so why do the fans need to give props to a guy who is "willing" to challenge the MW champion at his real weight? he is not going all and beyond to fight him, this is just a Goossen tactic to make it seem that Pavlik is trying to duck him, nobody is going to fall for that ****, just a bull**** excuse to try to raise his "stock".

                      If he wants Pavlik then move up in weight and see how good he can do at 160, I doubt he will last long in that weight anyway. And another thing how is he putting himself on the line? he wants a big payday, that's all.
                      And Margarito is a true WW?

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