AA will rule the 160/168 divisions..mark my words.

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  • Zerwas1
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    #41
    Sturm beat Oscar 116 - 112, or at least 115 - 113
    He won't fight Abraham because he doesn't want to get ktfo. So he keeps on fighting mandatories against b level fighters and voluntary defenses against bums.
    Because of the Oscar robbery he doesn't want to fight in the US.
    A fight against Abraham would play out like this:
    Sturm wins the jabbing contest in rounds 1
    Abraham isn't doing much.
    Sturm wins the jabbing contest in round 2 and lands 4 bodyshots.
    Sturm goes on to win some rounds...
    Abraham lands one solid punch....AND FRAZIERS GOING DOWN....äh Sturm
    Sturm gets up, Abraham throws a big amount of hayemakers....Sturms going down.

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      #42
      Originally posted by c'monmang'
      Oscar isnt a fricken middle/ super middle..c'mon man, Sturm beat a former 132 lbr. wow. big test for AA. cha'mon lee...
      Sturm isn't a super middle either and punches like a junior middleweight, but I know what you meant

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      • abadger
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        #43
        I've posted it many times before, so I won't bore you with the details, but I'm pretty sure Abraham beats Pavlik. Kessler whoops them both though.

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          #44
          Originally posted by abadger
          I've posted it many times before, so I won't bore you with the details, but I'm pretty sure Abraham beats Pavlik. Kessler whoops them both though.
          Kessler wins on points but he didn't take Calzaghe's nor Markus Beyers bodyshots too well. Abraham's hooks to the body are really mean, he got a big punchers chance

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          • Live Dog
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            #45
            Originally posted by abadger
            I've posted it many times before, so I won't bore you with the details, but I'm pretty sure Abraham beats Pavlik. Kessler whoops them both though.
            Do you really think Kessler is that much better than Pavlik that Abraham beats Pavlik and then gets whooped by Kessler?

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            • RL_GMA
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              #46
              Abraham did a great job last Saturday, but let's chill with the him beating Pavlik talk. Pavlik is a class (or 2) above Miranda overall. Abraham would have his hands full and would be walking back the whole fight and though AA's defense was on point, Pav's punches would go right through his guard.

              I'd love to see these guys fight, but as of now I still got Pavlik winning.

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              • abadger
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                #47
                Originally posted by Live Dog
                Do you really think Kessler is that much better than Pavlik that Abraham beats Pavlik and then gets whooped by Kessler?
                I think Pavlik - Kessler would be closer than Abraham - Kessler actually, notwithstanding that I think Abraham beats Pavlik. Styles make fights. Kessler at his best will be in and out with that jab against Abraham all night lonng, and gone before Abraham uncoils. He might not land the cleanest shots but he'll do enough to get the decision. Kessler - Pavlik would be more of a staright up fight because both guys like to attack.

                Bear in mind though, Kessler would need to be at his best to beat them both as easily as I am making out. No doubt in my mind if he performs as he can he's the best of the three, but Kessler is not always at his best.

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                • Jim Jeffries
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Live Dog
                  Do you really think Kessler is that much better than Pavlik that Abraham beats Pavlik and then gets whooped by Kessler?
                  Kessler is Calzaghe's best opponent to date. That makes Kessler an ATG.

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                  • abadger
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                    Kessler is Calzaghe's best opponent to date. That makes Kessler an ATG.
                    Nope. I base my assessment on the fact that Kessler is one of the fastest and most technically correct SMWs I've ever seen. At his best he can box absolutely beautifully. Throw in the fact he has good power and you have, for me, the best SMW in the world after Calzaghe. Its hardly a radical opinion. I'm tired of ignorant US fanboys posting that what actually are widely held opinions throughout boxing are somehow ridiculous. If you refuse to watch boxers that don't box out of the US then you can't expect to know much about it can you?

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                    • Live Dog
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by abadger
                      Nope. I base my assessment on the fact that Kessler is one of the fastest and most technically correct SMWs I've ever seen. At his best he can box absolutely beautifully. Throw in the fact he has good power and you have, for me, the best SMW in the world after Calzaghe. Its hardly a radical opinion. I'm tired of ignorant US fanboys posting that what actually are widely held opinions throughout boxing are somehow ridiculous. If you refuse to watch boxers that don't box out of the US then you can't expect to know much about it can you?
                      Zab Judah at his best can box beautifully. And if Kessler is one of the fastest and most technically corret SMW's you've ever seen than you should take your own advice and watch more boxing.

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