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  • Nacho_Analstain
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    #11
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    So then hugging must be the most effective form of a defense in boxing.
    Not really, Because it doesn't stop you from being hit.

    Blocking punches is a form of defence, Although i was rooting for Miranda .. Abraham blocked his shots very well, The counters were due to Miranda being predictable with his flurries but Abe blocked the shots well.

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    • BrooklynBomber
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      #12
      Originally posted by !! Shawn
      So then hugging must be the most effective form of a defense in boxing.
      It ain't pretty, and it is somewhat illegal but it is a form of defense,.

      If you boxed, your trainer probably taught you to keep your hands up, and that is for a reason, kid. which is to defend yourself from getting your head beat in. Open stances are cute and all, but they are just it...cute.


      High guard is a fundamental defense technique, and if it works for you then great. Moreover, in reality, all other defensive techniques were developed because people were not physically sufficient for high guard and it did not work for them.
      But it does not make it any less of a defense.

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      • Xplosivo
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        #13
        this is self ownage for the thread creator

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        • TheGreatA
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          #14
          Muhammad Ali used to do it all the time (covering up and 'hugging').

          Most German-based fighters go into their tight, defensive shell and take rounds off to conserve energy. That can sometimes work against them but Abraham makes up for it with his toughness and one punch KO power. Even if he is being outworked, he is still dangerous.


          Here's an example of it working against Felix Sturm.

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          • flem1
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            #15
            Originally posted by Xplosivo
            this is self ownage for the thread creator
            I think the thread starter is really a Pantera fan wishing that Abraham should have used the "Yuriorkis Gambao master defense" instead of protecting himself..
            Last edited by flem1; 06-22-2008, 06:24 PM.

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            • !! Shawn
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              #16
              Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
              It ain't pretty, and it is somewhat illegal but it is a form of defense,.

              If you boxed, your trainer probably taught you to keep your hands up, and that is for a reason, kid. which is to defend yourself from getting your head beat in. Open stances are cute and all, but they are just it...cute.


              High guard is a fundamental defense technique, and if it works for you then great. Moreover, in reality, all other defensive techniques were developed because people were not physically sufficient for high guard and it did not work for them.
              But it does not make it any less of a defense.
              High gaurd involved picking off body shots with your elbows. AA didn't do that. High gaurd involves perrying catching and countering. AA didn't do any of that.

              AA covered up, let Miranda wail on him, and occasionally swung with a bomb. It worked, it was a great strategy, but thats all. Not great defense.

              Nothing against AA, but his defense is not very good. He doesn't see punches coming, and his counter punching abilities are questionable.

              The guy can hit like a ton of bricks though, so it works for him.

              People need to stop comparing his defense to people like Winky who actually have defense, see punches coming, block them, parry them, counter them.

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              • Parody
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                #17
                [IMG]http://www.sallyminker.com/art/2-d/images/g****s-print.jpg[/IMG]

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheManchine
                  Muhammad Ali used to do it all the time (covering up and 'hugging').

                  Most German-based fighters go into their tight, defensive shell and take rounds off to conserve energy. That can sometimes work against them but Abraham makes up for it with his toughness and one punch KO power. Even if he is being outworked, he is still dangerous.


                  Here's an example of it working against Felix Sturm.
                  Exactly why it is not defense. It is merely covering up and hoping you don't get hit. Defense is the art of actively avoiding getting hit. Be it blocking, slipping or perrying. Winky catches uppercuts, AA sits there and preys they don't split his guard.

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                  • BrooklynBomber
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    High gaurd involved picking off body shots with your elbows. AA didn't do that. High gaurd involves perrying catching and countering. AA didn't do any of that.

                    AA covered up, let Miranda wail on him, and occasionally swung with a bomb. It worked, it was a great strategy, but thats all. Not great defense.

                    Nothing against AA, but his defense is not very good. He doesn't see punches coming, and his counter punching abilities are questionable.

                    The guy can hit like a ton of bricks though, so it works for him.

                    People need to stop comparing his defense to people like Winky who actually have defense, see punches coming, block them, parry them, counter them.

                    So, um, you can actually see what Arthur Abraham can see?
                    I am pretty sure he can see well through his guard.

                    Moreover, let me just go through this with you once again, Arthur Abraham rarely gets hit clean to the head. It's a pretty easy stuff to understand, right?
                    Thus with simple cause and effect logic(the principle of casuality, to be exact) we can derive that he has a good defense.

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                    • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                      #20
                      If he can make it work for him better than any other way, then he's doing the right thing.

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