Arthur Abraham is gonna get it one day if someone can do just one thing

[BrooklynBomber]

To be honest, no miranda didint, most of those punches were wild right to the gloves, miranda had no planned body assault. If he did, he would have made the fight dirty and got in his face, closing the distance. Most of abrahams power comes from the fact that he does need distance to get off, being on the inside and making it dirty, forcing abraham to smother his punches would have been far more intelligent, but that was never the plan from the get-go. miranda never had it in his mind to be landing body shots and he landed maybe 2 or 3 meaningful ones before getting KTFO.

http://www.nicesen.com/read-htm-tid-803.html

this is a fight shown from another angle.
You could clearly see that miranda is landing below Abraham's elbows. ANd lands quite a few

Also, Miranda was never an inside type of a fighter, you might as well ask Ricky Hatton fight on the outside and pull a shoulder roll..
But I see your point, this thread does not really have to do much with Miranda. However many of Arthur's knockouts came him working on the inside.
Especially if you watch his early career fights(where he is more of an aggressor/slugger type of a fighter).
He also likes to drop his hands and work from weird angles(somewhat like Vic Darchinyan), but he can work with meeting up his opponent with either left hook or cross(like the first KD in the fight came from that combination while Miranda was coming in.)

I think the guys who will give Abraham the most problems are not the guys who will come at him, he is a pretty smart fighter and can adopt pretty damn well to that, it's the speedier more technical guys who he will have to chase around.

[Boofdatruth]

I think the best tactic against Abraham is to move in and out, use good footwork, get inside throw a couple of body shots and get back out before Abraham can counter, keep doing this and his gloves could come down and expose his head.

And a jab would be a good weapon against Abraham too I think.

Good post. I'm a abraham fan. If you had to fight him, you have to probably fight him on the inside. Abrahams history shows he does very well against tall boxers. You have to smother him from round 1-12, or keep your distance and hope that you can counter when he opens up. Miranda just isn't a smart boxer. Pav is. Pav-Abraham is a great fight. I pick AA to ko Pav late in the fight.

[Silencers]

Good post. I'm a abraham fan. If you had to fight him, you have to probably fight him on the inside. Abrahams history shows he does very well against tall boxers. You have to smother him from round 1-12, or keep your distance and hope that you can counter when he opens up. Miranda just isn't a smart boxer. Pav is. Pav-Abraham is a great fight. I pick AA to ko Pav late in the fight.

Those tall boxers that Abraham has fought aren't on the same level as Pavlik though.

I liked what Pavlik did against Lockett where he moved into range to throw his shots and took a half step or a step back to avoid Lockett's blows, I know Lockett isn't anywhere near the level of Abraham but this tactic could work for Pavlik, Pavlik is also an underrated body puncher, he punches real well to the body.

I think if they fight, Pavlik would win by convincing decision.

[ELPacman]

Well, Pavlik is good at landing straight shots. He doesn't throw those wild hooks like Miranda. But, he definitely would have to cover up because if he goes to the body and leaves himself open, AA will unload one of his monster hooks on Pavlik and they say, nobody might be able to stand up to a shot by Miranda, well I think that should be said about AA now.

[rizkybizness]

You hook to the body and you might get hooked in the jaw. You don;t want to be on AA's highlight reel. I mean you can do it but there are risks. If you do it consistently and AA catches on what you're trying to do he'll uncoil.

Please take our bet off of your sig. I payed you last night.

[Boofdatruth]

Those tall boxers that Abraham has fought aren't on the same level as Pavlik though.

I liked what Pavlik did against Lockett where he moved into range to throw his shots and took a half step or a step back to avoid Lockett's blows, I know Lockett isn't anywhere near the level of Abraham but this tactic could work for Pavlik, Pavlik is also an underrated body puncher, he punches real well to the body.

I think if they fight, Pavlik would win by convincing decision.

I agree, Pav can box and punch. But Pav has not faced a fighter like Abraham either. . Abraham can do the same thing, box and punch. AA is a great body puncher with great defense. I think Pav will fight AA on the inside when they fight. This is a dangerous fight for both. I pick AA to brutally ko Pav, and that isn't even to disrespect Pav.

[-Antonio-]

It's a good thing Pavlik has a nice right hook to the body.

[Silencers]

I agree, Pav can box and punch. But Pav has not faced a fighter like Abraham either. . Abraham can do the same thing, box and punch. AA is a great body puncher with great defense. I think Pav will fight AA on the inside when they fight. This is a dangerous fight for both. I pick AA to brutally ko Pav, and that isn't even to disrespect Pav.

I don't think Pavlik would fight him on the inside, Pavlik would try to fight at his range by establishing his jab. I think he will occasionally go inside to punch at Abraham's body but for the most part I think he'll try to fight Abraham at his range.

I agree with the rest.

[kayjay]

I've always thought AA has stylistic advantages against Miranda, Pavlik, and Taylor. Taylor is the only one who could've executed the right plan, but with AA's KO power and Taylor's chin issue, that would've ended badly for Jermain.

One thing I disagree with BJ about is the distance needed for AA's power. He's got in-close power. I think we'll see that against Pavlik as he'll need to close the distance

[BattlingNelson]

I think the best tactic against Abraham is to move in and out, use good footwork, get inside throw a couple of body shots and get back out before Abraham can counter, keep doing this and his gloves could come down and expose his head.

And a jab would be a good weapon against Abraham too I think.

Yeah. I think a fighter who defeats AA must be technically sounder, have a footwork good enough to give AA angles for 12 rounds and in possession of a superiour jab. What's important is to keep giving AA angles, spoil him and definetely prevent him from getting good oppotunities of teeing off on you.

Forget a KO. AA is unknockoutable. But some power is needed to get AA's respect. As one poster mentioned Ayala did have the moves, but he didn't get AA's respect that's for sure.