Nigel Benn: "David Haye Knocks Wladimir Klitschko Out"

[squealpiggy]

I don't remember Wlad getting dropped by anyone that is now a SMW, or by two others that used to be LHWs.

90% of the guys at heavyweight are actually fat middleweights.

[Jim Jeffries]

90% of the guys at heavyweight are actually fat middleweights.

First of all, funny but wrong. Second, what does that meaningless statement have to do with this discussion? Were Brewster, Sanders, or Peter middleweights? Try to keep up.

[squealpiggy]

First of all, funny but wrong. Second, what does that meaningless statement have to do with this discussion? Were Brewster, Sanders, or Peter middleweights? Try to keep up.

If Peter lowered his bodyfat to below 50% he'd be a ****in Flyweight.

[Dynamite Kid]

If Peter lowered his bodyfat to below 50% he'd be a ****in Flyweight.

also Peter is a worse rabbit puncher than Big Frank Bruno

lmao

[Jim Jeffries]

If Peter lowered his bodyfat to below 50% he'd be a ****in Flyweight.

This Samuel Peter?

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He was 7 pounds leaner than that when he fought Wlad BTW.

[edgarg]

Benn is a staunch patriot- don't blame him

Benn can be excused for his bombast because he's supporting a compatriot, perhaps even a friend. However he makes assumptions which need that Klitschko stands there and sticks his chin out for Haye to hit.

I't a well known fact that any 200 lb (plus) fighter can KO anyone else if the punch is delivered properly and hard enough. But Benn is also assuming something which is not true, because Klitschko does not have a poor chin, whilst Haye does. In any competition to see who lands on the chin first, I'd back Klitschko. His jab alone would stagger Haye.

It's the most perfectly delivered punch in boxing today, in any division.

Benn is also assuming that Haye will not be "knocked off" by another bruiser before getting the chance to fight Klitschko. His best heavyweight performance to date is against a guy ranking #107 on the list.

So far, (and correct me if I'm wrong) only Moorer and holyfield have graduated from being Cruiserweight champion to heavyweight Champion, and Moorer was not really a success at that weight.

I've always believed that J.C. Gomez would become the third, and he still may. If he gets the chance. I'd back him against Haye.

Time will tell.

[Dynamite Kid]

Benn can be excused for his bombast because he's supporting a compatriot, perhaps even a friend. However he makes assumptions which need that Klitschko stands there and sticks his chin out for Haye to hit.

I't a well known fact that any 200 lb (plus) fighter can KO anyone else if the punch is delivered properly and hard enough. But Benn is also assuming something which is not true, because Klitschko does not have a poor chin, whilst Haye does. In any competition to see who lands on the chin first, I'd back Klitschko. His jab alone would stagger Haye.

It's the most perfectly delivered punch in boxing today, in any division.

Benn is also assuming that Haye will not be "knocked off" by another bruiser before getting the chance to fight Klitschko. His best heavyweight performance to date is against a guy ranking #107 on the list.

So far, (and correct me if I'm wrong) only Moorer and holyfield have graduated from being Cruiserweight champion to heavyweight Champion, and Moorer was not really a success at that weight.

I've always believed that J.C. Gomez would become the third, and he still may. If he gets the chance. I'd back him against Haye.

Time will tell.

Klitschko chin is as bad as Haye's

difference is Wlad has been saved by his cornerman or the referee

look at the punch Peter shook him up with there was hardly anything on it

both as bad as each other IMO

[Xol]

Like I said before, Wlad will stick the jab in Haye's face all night long and when one of them hits perfect... a right hand is going to follow to lay out Haye.

I don't see it going any other way than a KO by Wlad in the early rounds.

[Steve_H]

First of all, can I just say that I'm a Haye fan and that I've followed his career for a few years now...

But saying that, the naysayers are right to a degree - Haye needs to be tested at HW before any of us can even envision him in the same ring as WK... more specifically, Haye's CHIN needs to be tested at HW.

Haye has admitted himself that there are doubts over his chin and I find that refreshing - I really hopes he gets to the stage where he can share a ring with Wlad...

Irrespective of what Haye does though - and as much as I respect Wlad as a man and a boxer - the younger Klitschko can be exasperating to watch.

His snoozefest win over Ibragimov was painful viewing... the Russian was out of his depth and while I understand the reasons why, I cannot accept the fact that Wlad didn't once try and put him away.

He must have thrown 5 or 6 right-hands with intent ALL NIGHT and I'm sorry, but that is not what the paying public want - or deserve - to see.

YES, Wlad has one of the best jabs in boxing but it seems to me that that's all he is at the moment.

His fear of being hit is evident and while he is a fine boxer, he is no longer a warrior - and my opinion won't change on that unless he steps up a gear against Povetkin and Thompson.

To talk about Wlad and Haye in the same sentence at the moment is foolish - both have their own issues to deal with... but if both power though them, it sets things up nicely for late 2009.

Whatever - should be a fun 18 months at HW... first time we can say that for a decade or so!

[Pugilistic™]

there can't be any doubt that he can. he will be all down to who lands the first bomb when they fight.