Most Overated Fighters of all Time

[robjr]

de la hoya for sure.

[typeone]

Fraudly Harrison has to be in there somewhere

[SpeedKillz]

ricky hatton
antonio margarito
john ruiz
jeff lacy
JERMAIN TAYLOR
felix trinidad

[THE MASTERKUSH]

I was thinking....Who does everybody here think are the most overated fighters of all time. I don't mean fighters who did not live up to their potential (ie Tyson, Toney, David Reid) I mean fighters that may have had or are having great careers are doing their best but you believe are given more credit than they deserve.

The first three that come to mind are:

1)Rocky Marciano- Something should be said for retiring undefeated, but his career was largely a case of being in the right place in the right time. He beat Jersey Joe Walcott for the title (already and old man) fought a past his prime Joe Louis and Archie Moore (who almost beat him) and there were no real good young up and coming heavyweights to challenge him. He was around 8-10 years prior to the rise of Ali. He also retired just in time to not have to fight Floyd Patterson. If he was boxing 5 years earlier or later, I doubt he would have been undefeated.

2)Lennox Lewis-May be the best SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT of all time. If there was a division for people of his size, but the fact of the matter was he was a good fighter beating other good people who he had 5-6 inches of height on (at least) and who were giving away 20 pounds or more in weight to. Good big man almost always beats good smaller dude. Yet he still managed to get knocked out by Oliver McCall, Hasim Rachman, and lose to Evander Holyfield on the downside of his career. (No not his first fight where he got screwed out of the decision, the second fight they said he won) He also arguably loss to Ray Mercer. Lennox is not even in my all time heavyweight top 15 maybe not even top 20. In a mediocre era of heavyweights he was only just good.

3)Oscar De La Hoya-Here's why. He has won titles in 5 weight classes true and he is an excellent boxer. But the media hype machine (and throngs of female fans) have made him out to be a better boxer than he is. Its also given him a host of questionable decisions from Whittaker to Ike Quartery, to Felix Sturm just recently. If Hop had let it go to the cards he might have set himself up for a screw job as well. He's a great fighter, but he's had a very carefully managed career that has allowed him to make the most of his oppurtunities and pad his record with impressive (on paper wins). When he's been put in front of someone of equal or better talent he's lost (Tito, Hop, Mosley) although if he hadn't run he would have beat Tito.

I'm sure there are more what do you guys think? Do you agree with my choices, who are your choices?

great thread infamous ...
i would take lewis off your list.the later part of his career he beat the best
while out of shape and hardly training.
i'd definently add tyson and the klits.

[Addison]

Miguel Cotto is FAST approaching.

At least here on this forum..


He's favored to beat De La Hoya and Paul Williams. :wank:

The fanboys are in full force.

[MightyMikeA]

De La Hoya-Lost to every great fighter he ever faced.

Tito-If you're not intimidated of his power, he's done, he'll retire like a *****, no heart.

Bernard Hopkins-Stayed at 160 and beat bums for over a decade and then beat up the above two overrated welterweight bitches and then one of the most overrated bitches ever.......

Antonio Tarver-Former crack addict who serial stalked roy jones and basically had a fetish for him until he finally fought him and got a lucky punch in when Roy was 35. Would've been mopped up by Roy in his prime fairly easily, but with some possible trouble i'll admit.

Floyd Mayweather Jr.-His skills are not overrated, but his desire to be a great fighter and his guts to take risks definitely is overrated as is his resume to a certain degree.

[oldgringo]

Miguel Cotto is FAST approaching.

At least here on this forum..


He's favored to beat De La Hoya and Paul Williams. :wank:

The fanboys are in full force.

Wow it really burns you up that nobody has been able to beat him yet huh?

Cotto is a very good fighter. Not the best in the world yet, but nobody has really labeled him as such. He's a legitimate two division world title holder who gets better with every passing fight.

Why would Williams or De La Hoya be favored against him now? Williams can't crack an egg and De La Hoya is now a part time fighter who hasn't fought at 147 in ages. Cotto would fold Williams in two. Oscar would take a bad beating IF (like in every other instance with Cotto these days) he couldn't blitz Miguel early in the fight.

Everyone will find out how good Cotto is pretty soon if they haven't already.

[Avenue]

Manny Pacquiao

[Addison]

Wow it really burns you up that nobody has been able to beat him yet huh?
Cotto is a very good fighter. Not the best in the world yet, but nobody has really labeled him as such. He's a legitimate two division world title holder who gets better with every passing fight.

Why would Williams or De La Hoya be favored against him now? Williams can't crack an egg and De La Hoya is now a part time fighter who hasn't fought at 147 in ages. Cotto would fold Williams in two. Oscar would take a bad beating IF (like in every other instance with Cotto these days) he couldn't blitz Miguel early in the fight.

Everyone will find out how good Cotto is pretty soon if they haven't already.

I agree it's possible Williams could get folded.. But in 2 rounds?

There's also a better than great possibility Cotto gets completely owned by Paul Williams.. Several different ways.


De La Hoya would beat the **** out of Cotto.

It would be worse than the Mayorga fight. Much worse.


I appreciate that you're very enthusiastic about Miguel.

But this "fan" stuff is what I was referring to..

[Allucard]

I eally don't like it when Hoya said he wants to fight someone who will stay in front of him. Last one to say that? Gatti on the Gomez fight.
I wish him all luck in his next fight. I'll lose respect if he takes Hatton Mayweather away but for now he's one of my favorites just for having fought the best and how many can say they did? He did.