Calzaghe vs Pavlik unlikely apparantly

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  • WLAD OWNS
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    #11
    What the ****.....Jones dosent deserve a shot...he hasnt done **** since got brutally KO'd Twice.

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    • Sir_Joe
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      #12
      Calzaghe obviously wants to get paid at this point (Roy Jones would do well PPV), Roy Jones is also one of Calzaghe's favourite boxers ever so that's a great incentive right there.

      I would rather Pavlik vs Calzaghe but I fully understand what Calzaghe is doing, Roy would be a harder challenge I think too.

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      • Silencers
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        #13
        Originally posted by C-Drone
        If the money is right and feels good enough after the Jones fight, both fights can happen. In your mind you have many voices and the one that speaks for money, speaks loudest.
        True. Hopefully, it will happen.

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        • Sir_Joe
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          #14
          He knows he can beat Pavlik in his head, Calzaghe is one of the most confident boxers in boxing. He will fight Pavlik after Jones if he wins and feels good. I think he's fighting Jones because it will be in Wales @ 175.

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          • mojack
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            #15
            BELIEVE EVERYONE...BELIEVE *gathers everyone around some candles*




            Hommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
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            Joe Calzaghe will fight Kelly Pavlik

            Hommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
            Hommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

            Joe Calzaghe will fight Kelly Pavlik

            Come on everybody, let's meditate together.

            Joe Calzaghe will fight Kelly Pavlik

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            Last edited by mojack; 09-07-2011, 06:05 PM.

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            • English Lion
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              #16
              Of course boxing purists will know that pavlik would be more of a threat to joe calzaghe than roy jones, but jones is the bigger names and calzaghe is now looking for the pay days which he does deserve after all his hard work. Dont under-estimate Roy jones however, he looked really sharp in his last couple fights and personally....i can see him outpointing Calzaghe in a very close fight..

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              • kayjay
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                #17
                Fighting Pavlik would almost be unfair. Pavlik couldn't win more than a single round and would look terrible.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KrisSilver
                  That's a pretty legit article, very surprising. First time Calzaghes spoken out on Pavlik in awhile now, and he does it saying he's not sure Pavlik wants him, when he just said he does. Very odd. He seems focussed on Roy Jones, and he does have a point about that being a closer match than Pavlik. Pavliks style is suited for Calzaghe, whilst Roy could challenge him well on most or all fronts.

                  Calzaghe needs to make his mind up how many more times he's fighting. He doesn't rule out twice there saying fighting Pavlik isn't outside the realms of possibility, but Roy is right at the moment. Well hardly considering all the fighters age and experience he'd be favoured against Pavlik now, and Roy in a 2nd fight earning bigger money with a bigger name. If he does it the other way around financial and winning changes are reduced.
                  Kris,

                  As I mentioned in the other thread, the article proves that Jones was in NO WAY pricing himself out of a Calzaghe fight. Someone on this baord spread that garbage.

                  This fight makes much more sense for Calzaghe. As for Pavlik/ Read my previous post with regards to that.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #19
                    I guess Joe didn't like the look of Gary when he came back.

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                    • Kris Silver
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Kris,

                      As I mentioned in the other thread, the article proves that Jones was in NO WAY pricing himself out of a Calzaghe fight. Someone on this baord spread that garbage.

                      This fight makes much more sense for Calzaghe. As for Pavlik/ Read my previous post with regards to that.
                      How does it prove that? It's reasonable to say given Roy and Calzaghe's open keenness on fighting eachother and getting a deal done quickly, that Roy and King did try to bargain too big a majority pay out of the pie (we already knew they wanted a majority) for Calzaghe or Frank to accept, hence the delay and the sudden lack of transparency about a match-up.

                      Calzaghe's still most likely going to settle for less than he deserves because he wants the fight, and Roy won't stop saying "I'm the bigger name". This despite Calzaghe being no. 1, proven, bigger at the moment, favourite, a bigger draw in his homelands, decent in the US, and Roy accepting some of these aspects saying the onus is on him to chase, fight in the top guys backyward, with a deal that wouldn't favor him as much as he's used to.

                      I also think it's reasonable to factor into the politics of it all, Pavlik and Arum openly expressing interest in fighting Calzaghe, which wouldn't favour Roy's bargaining position for various reasons.

                      It does begger the question, why has Frank discussed a fight with Pavliks promoter Arum in depth saying it's definitely possible, without assessing better if Calzaghe would really want it? Almost been a waste and embarassed Frank Warren Joe suddenly coming out saying no no, don't want Kelly, most likely Roy. I doubt he's changed his mind much but it's possible. With Pavlik and his promoter chasing Calzaghe a little, it's probably helped Calzaghe's barganing with Roy so a deal there is more likely now.
                      Last edited by Kris Silver; 06-13-2008, 09:41 AM.

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