Winky Wright: "Oscar De La Hoya Can't Run Anymore"

[ferocity]

Sinatra said it all and i now retire from this thread.

[Ray Ray]

Just admit you were wrong.

Did I not just admit that???

[-Hyperion-]

Money hungery and ducking his mandatory is the word here.

it was only the first.....youre an idiot...

lets see i get payed 2 mil more for fighting A mosley rematch instead of ouma....what the **** do i care for my IBF belt when i already have the other 2....

lets see trinidad will give me 5 mil more than ouma.....**** yeah ill step up in weight to fight him.....

next month, Ouma gets his ass kicked....

[Mr. Ryan]

I understand that...I will admit that I didnt follow Ouma until after the Taylor fight (which he showed heart) but I find it rather hard that Winky ducked Ouma...I will call it a duck if he fought lesser opponents. (just my opinion) I'm not dening that Ouma was a beat at the time but Winky fought tougher, harder fighters(than Ouma afterwards). I guess I just see it a different way man... IMO I think Winky moved on the bigger and better things.

You can't really fault Winky Wright for taking the rematch with Mosley and fighting Tito Trinidad. Those were very winnable, huge paydays and thats what had been unattainable for years.

Fighting Kassim Ouma, who was hungry and had comparably meager earning potential, would be a backwards step from what Wright's objective was.

In my opinion Ouma was much more dangerous than Mosley and Trinidad were at the time. Ouma was a very serious fighter before his out of the ring habits became the death of him.

[Fox McCloud]

I understand that...I will admit that I didnt follow Ouma until after the Taylor fight (which he showed heart) but I find it rather hard that Winky ducked Ouma...I will call it a duck if he fought lesser opponents. (just my opinion) I'm not dening that Ouma was a beat at the time but Winky fought tougher, harder fighters(than Ouma afterwards). I guess I just see it a different way man... IMO I think Winky moved on the bigger and better things.

I agree that you can not fight a good fighter and not have it being ducking, as long as you are doing something equally or more challenging.

Example: Mayweather didn't fight Casamayor and Freitas at 130, but he did move up to 135 to fight Castillo. Castillo ended up being better than both Casamayor and Freitas when all those round robin fights were done (if you add Corrales into that mix).

Trinidad may or may not have been more dangerous than Ouma, and Castillo may or may not have been more dangerous than Casamayor and Freitas, but either way, I think it is a hard argument to make that either fighter took a lesser chanllenge to duck the others mentioned.

But, then again, I wasn't a fan when all that **** happened, so... I may or may not be correct. I wasn't there for the situation and atmosphere of such things.

[Mr. Ryan]

the curse of winky's style....people are idiots who cant see he barely gets punched clean.......
i even give some degree of value to pitter-patter punches if they land....but if they dont, they count for ****ing ****....

You really have to watch Ouma's style to appreciate it. Those punches look like pitty-pat, but he has a very effective, heavy-handed style that pressures fighters and breaks them down.

He'll throw three punches up top, then shoot a straight left to the body and completely catch you off guard. He throws from a lot of different angles and changes speed. When he was serious about his career, Ouma was serious.

[THE REED]

Nothing much man...LMAO at how Winky DUCKED Ouma!!

Whats going on Reed? Everything good?

****s good! i close on my house tomorrow and get the keys!

[-Hyperion-]

You really have to watch Ouma's style to appreciate it. Those punches look like pitty-pat, but he has a very effective, heavy-handed style that pressures fighters and breaks them down.

He'll throw three punches up top, then shoot a straight left to the body and completely catch you off guard. He throws from a lot of different angles and changes speed. When he was serious about his career, Ouma was serious.

i totally appreciate Ouma.....i even think he didnt get beat that one sidedly by Karmazin...except for the knockdowns....i think i gave him 6 rounds...


but enough to beat a winky wright?nah....

winky is an idiot, he shouldve fought forrest(though im glad sergio got that overrated old man) or jones(another overrated old man that would put him on the map BIG)

[THE REED]

jones is overrated.................

[Mr. Ryan]

i totally appreciate Ouma.....i even think he didnt get beat that onse sidedly by Karmazin...except for the knockdowns....i think i gave him 6 rounds...


but enough to beat a winky wright?nah....

winky is an idiot he shouldve fought forrest(though im glad sergio got that overrated old man) or jones(another overrated old man that would put him on the map BIG)

Ouma's mistake for the Karmazin fight was that he trained in his hometown of West Palm Beach, FL. He usually was going out to Pennsylvania for camp, but this time he didn't and he paid for it.

Watch Ouma in the two fights with Verno Phillips. That was the true vintage Ouma who I think would have given Winky all kinds of trouble. Ouma was a guy nobody wanted to fight.

Winky wasn't going to get a fight with Jones because Jones was at one point his promoter (hence all the under card appearances) and him and Forrest are reported to be good friends.