Toney Undisputed Heavyweight Champ

[WillieW]

He could be, but no one will give him a shot

Unfortunately you hit the nail on the head. He can't get a fight with any of Don Kings stable of bums, because King always wants options. A fight with either Klit never seems to be able to be made. He is just kind of stuck.

He the stands to win against most of the current top ten, and he has a chance of upsetting the others. A fight with Vitali would be very interesting no matter who wins, but it will take alot to make it happen.

[neils7147933]

Anyone can look impressive against Rydell Booker.

Except if they can't get him out of there even though he's wobbly at Round 3 and their arms are so tight from overtraining that their corner has to massage them between rounds because their old body can't take the roids anymore.

Does Toney even have 4 fights in him, even if the 4 champs lined up and somehow got beat by the guy (I give him 1-3 against the champs right now, 0-4 if Rahman meets Meehan and takes Lamon's belt)

[MetalVomit]

Toney cant beat Vitali.

he can, but will he be able to? I think Vitali would either win a lopsided decision, or stop Toney. Toney beats Brewster, possibly Ruiz, i dont know if he could take byrd, but I would love to see them fight. He can beat Vitali, but he wouldnt.

[BrooklynBomber]

Dont think that he can become a champion. He proved to be injury prone and will only fight in 6 month at least, by that time he will be like 37 which is pretty much too old for JT.
But hey this is boxing and anything could happen. I could see him getting a UD over Brewster (Meehan did it, why not Toney) but with Don King around it will be hard to actually beat him. Lamon proved to have a concrete head and I dont see Toney even knocking him down. All the other kings champions are too much for Toney IMHO. I dont even talk about Vitaly. But again anything could happen in boxing. Toney is just a good fighter in wrong division at a wrong time

[GxBrak]

toney wont be able to hurt klitschko, he just doenst have power at HW and vitali would eventually outlast him

[oldgringo]

Toney doesn't have power at HW? Tell that to Holyfield...and don't give me that "Holy is shot" **** because he's still a tough guy regardless of his diminished skills.

Toney has the stones to win the HW title. He could beat Vitali and I say that based on his experience, chin, superior defense, accurate punching...he wouldn't KO Vitali. It would be a late TKO or decision if anything.

The only thing I see him having trouble with is getting inside. Vitali won't wanna take it inside so he would likely sit outside and try to pot shot. I wonder how JT would deal with that.

Vitali most likely wouldn't come forward and rush Toney (maybe if he had a death wish) so Toney would have to keep his part of the action and come forward, which he proved he can do.

Toney looked crappy against Jirov? Jirov makes everything look bad...in what aspect did James look bad?

[Neuraxis]

Toney doesn't have power at HW? Tell that to Holyfield...and don't give me that "Holy is shot" **** because he's still a tough guy regardless of his diminished skills.

Toney has the stones to win the HW title. He could beat Vitali and I say that based on his experience, chin, superior defense, accurate punching...he wouldn't KO Vitali. It would be a late TKO or decision if anything.

The only thing I see him having trouble with is getting inside. Vitali won't wanna take it inside so he would likely sit outside and try to pot shot. I wonder how JT would deal with that.

Vitali most likely wouldn't come forward and rush Toney (maybe if he had a death wish) so Toney would have to keep his part of the action and come forward, which he proved he can do.

Toney looked crappy against Jirov? Jirov makes everything look bad...in what aspect did James look bad?

Holyfield is shot and on top of that after the Byrd fight he is in tremendous pain just trying to keep his left arm up let alone throw a punch with it.

[oldgringo]

Holyfield is shot and on top of that after the Byrd fight he is in tremendous pain just trying to keep his left arm up let alone throw a punch with it.

So he's not tough anymore?

[Neuraxis]

So he's not tough anymore?

He tore his rotator cuff against Byrd like Vitali did, except Holyfield kept fighting with it unlike Vitali. And now unlike Vitali his shoulder still bothers him.

[oldgringo]

I'm not saying that Holy isn't shot and is not the same fighter or whatever. He is hurt and now has to smother the other fighter because he can't pick his left up to guard himself. I'm replying to someone saying that Toney has no HW power. He can certainly hurt you over the course of a fight. He hurt Evander (one of the toughest guys ever) over the course of their fight...and hurt Booker rather early on in their fight. I'm just saying that he does have enough power to hurt anyone after they eat so many shots.