Mikkel Kessler's fight before Calzaghe, 856 punches thrown, 532 jabs

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  • TheRocketMan
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    Mikkel Kessler's fight before Calzaghe, 856 punches thrown, 532 jabs

    The argument for Pavlik beating Calzaghe is exactly the same thing, "high punch out put with a great jab" only Kessler is a bigger and more technically sound version of Pavlik.

    We're talking about near exact number of punches thrown here only Kessler lands more with a higher connection rate.

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    Originally posted by TheRocketMan
    The argument for Pavlik beating Calzaghe is exactly the same thing, "high punch out put with a great jab" only Kessler is a bigger and more technically sound version of Pavlik.

    We're talking about near exact number of punches thrown here only Kessler lands more with a higher connection rate.

    I really enjoy watching Kessler fight. He almost never moves straight back, throws going in and out, counters nicely, neary every punch has serious intent, he's quick, has a great beard....so many things to like about this kid. He'll certainly be one of the greats in the next few years. I don't think anyone besides Calzaghe can beat him. Pavlik has a 50/50 chance, but it'd be the toughest fight he's ever been in.

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    • TheRocketMan
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      #3
      Bump..........

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        #4
        the ref should have stopped this fight way b4 the 12 th

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        • IMDAZED
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          I'm not sure I've heard anyone argue that that's the way to beat Calzaghe. The only way to beat Calzaghe is to turn his strengths into weaknesses - Bernard Hopkins was only able to accomplish this in spurts. plus, Calzaghe is so versatile, it's very hard to continue your success against him - he knows how to switch it up.

          That said, the way to beat Calzaghe is to counter, counter, counter. Be able to fight well off the ropes. And work the body. You'll never be able to match his activity but if you can throw a decent amount (something Hopkins couldn't do) and land while working his body, he'll slow down. I'm pretty sure this is what Roy Jones has in mind which confidently leads him to believe he will win. Whether he is the one to pull it off remains to be seen.

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            kessler had an injured hand so cong**** to calzaghe for beating a one handed fighter. maybe thats why he didnt throw any damn punches..........ya think! it's not like calzaghes hard to hit.

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              #7
              Only person who can beat Joe against Lacy in the past 20 years is Roy Jones Jr.

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                Originally posted by TheRocketMan
                Only person who can beat Joe against Lacy in the past 20 years is Roy Jones Jr.
                I don't know. I think Joe has many, many problems against Glen Johnson and Chad Dawson. And a prime Bernard Hopkins beats him.

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                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I don't know. I think Joe has many, many problems against Glen Johnson and Chad Dawson. And a prime Bernard Hopkins beats him.
                  Chad Dawson might very well beat the Joe we see today, he is pretty fast and slick and looks better at LHW than Joe does IMO, so if anyone could beat him I'd say Dawson.

                  Glen Johnson is far too one dimensional to beat Joe. His pressure attack can look good, but there is little thought behind it, he just keeps throwing over and over. Dawson had no idea how to cope with this tactically but got the verdict just because he was the younger man and was able to land harder cleaner shots when Johnson came charging in. Joe would do even better, moving to make Johnson miss and landing many more shots than Dawson did, although not as cleanly and crisply.

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                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I don't know. I think Joe has many, many problems against Glen Johnson and Chad Dawson. And a prime Bernard Hopkins beats him.
                    Glen Johnson is a more schooled version of Lacy in the way that he keeps coming forward but actually has a jab. I don't see Calzaghe having much problems counter punching against him, he only looks bad trying to force a fight.

                    Chad Dawson I agree would be a very hard fight but Calzaghe would be too experienced for him, Johnson used one style against Dawson without having to go to plan B or C and it worked all the way through.

                    Bernard Hopkins would be a tough fight but Prime Hopkins came forward more and didn't have the experience he now has as a counter puncher and a fighter who stays on the ropes, I think it would have been a great fight because Calzaghe had more power back then too. I'd give it to Calzaghe 115-113.

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