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  • abadger
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    #21
    Ho ho ho! You guys are funny.

    "Joe is no world beater himself" Fine. Except that's a current Ring two weight champ you're talking about, also cleaned out his main division.

    "How is the idea of Pavlik KOing Joe funny?" Dunno, maybe because Calzaghe has never been close to being knocked out?

    "Calzaghe just plain sucks" Right. Or alternatively you could just be real and stop letting personal preference cloud your judgemnet. This guy sucks so bad he's never been beat!

    Keep it up guys, I'd be lost without you.

    ABADGERS TIP: Watch Calzaghe fights!

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dorian
      Chad "Next Roy Jones Jr" Dawson is gonna get ktfo as soon as he takes on someone strong, he almost lost to a 40 year old Johnson lol
      I think Johnson still has pretty decent pop and Ademek's power carried all the way to cruiserweight. Dawson is still a bit rough around the edges and would probably be better at SMW, but he's not too bad.

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      • abadger
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        #23
        Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
        I think Johnson still has pretty decent pop and Ademek's power carried all the way to cruiserweight. Dawson is still a bit rough around the edges and would probably be better at SMW, but he's not too bad.
        I'd love to see Dawson at SMW. Him and Kessler would be an excellent fight.

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        • Dorian
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          #24
          Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
          I think Johnson still has pretty decent pop and Ademek's power carried all the way to cruiserweight. Dawson is still a bit rough around the edges and would probably be better at SMW, but he's not too bad.
          He'll improve for sure but in my opinion, i don't think he's as good as they say he is but that's just me

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            #25
            Originally posted by Horus
            Wladimir Klitschko
            After his last fight, he's been pretty underrated, plus it's pretty common opinion that a strong breeze cracks the china in his chin.

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            • deanrw
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              #26
              Originally posted by abadger

              "How is the idea of Pavlik KOing Joe funny?" Dunno, maybe because Calzaghe has never been close to being knocked out?
              Neither was Zuniga, Neither was Mckart, Neither was Zertuche. Neither was Miranda, Neither was Taylor.

              notice a trend?

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              • KnockoutTheFat
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                #27
                Originally posted by deanrw
                Neither was Zuniga, Neither was Mckart, Neither was Zertuche. Neither was Miranda, Neither was Taylor.

                notice a trend?
                They were all different nationalities. Pavlik kills everybody, white, black, brown, purple, ugly, you name it. J/K I know they've never been KO'd before.

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                • abadger
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by deanrw
                  Neither was Zuniga, Neither was Mckart, Neither was Zertuche. Neither was Miranda, Neither was Taylor.

                  notice a trend?
                  Yeah. I'm thinking none of them were undefeated for the last eighteen years, and the current P4P #2 or 3 though eh? Maybe Pavlik can knock Joe out, it's not impossible, but Eubank couldn't, Kessler couldn't, Lacy couldn't, Byron Mitchell couldn't, Robin Reid couldn't, Hopkins couldn't, and every single one of them was a hard puncher and was boxing a weight class above Kelly Pavlik. Like I say, it's not impossible, but I'm thinking the chances are pretty slim, you don't have to agree with me though.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by abadger
                    Yeah. I'm thinking none of them were undefeated for the last eighteen years, and the current P4P #2 or 3 though eh? Maybe Pavlik can knock Joe out, it's not impossible, but Eubank couldn't, Kessler couldn't, Lacy couldn't, Byron Mitchell couldn't, Robin Reid couldn't, Hopkins couldn't, and every single one of them was a hard puncher and was boxing a weight class above Kelly Pavlik. Like I say, it's not impossible, but I'm thinking the chances are pretty slim, you don't have to agree with me though.
                    I am also not saying he will. What I am saying is, Joe showed in his last fight, that like Pavlik in his last fight, that they both have vulnerabilities. People like to write Pavlik off as some crude puncher, but he must be doing something right.

                    Joe is a good fighter, but he is also on old legs now. Having a non stop puncher in the ring like himself will test him, more than anyone else he has ever faced. People see Pavlik and shrug their shoulders, but the guy has been stopping guys who seemingly had Iron Chins and skills on top of them.

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