Pac can't Beat Bums. So he fights the elderly.

**Silencers** · 06-06-2008, 05:48 AM

The Terrecampo loss was because of a low blow, he was weight drained for the Singsurat fight and he should have won the Sanchez fight and Sanchez isn't a bum, he's a solid fighter. A but off topic, Sanchez was fouling Pacquiao left right and center in that fight.

If he was really skill less and one handed, his fights with Barrera, JMM and Morales shouldn't have even been close.

The first fight was close, Morales won clearly but by no means was it a dominating performance.

Morales didn't fight like a shot fighter for the first half of the second fight.

Pacquiao pretty much won without much difficulty against Barrera in the second fight.

**El Chicano** · 06-06-2008, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by RichLoc

Pac can't Beat Bums. So he fights the elderly.

by rich loc

Rustico Torrecampo,Medgoen Singsurat, and Agapito Sanchez

What type of Great fighters. Who are not past there prime. Not be able to Beat fighters of their(Rustico Torrecampo Medgoen Singsurat Agapito Sanchez) caliber? A one handed skill less overrated southpaw thats who.
Only pachaks won't agree with the Fact that Barrera was maybe in his worst shape ever for a fight. When he faced Pac back in 2003,and still pac couldn't KO Barrera. 2004 most people agreed Pac lost to JMM. The real People's *** Champ at 126 was JMM. 2005 Morales coming off his first clear Loss. Easily schooled Pac for 12 rounds. The only thing that gave him trouble was pac's stamina. So when Morales came to the rematch totally drained. That was really the only real big Difference. 2007 pac has a rematch with barrera. Where a slower older Grandpa Barrera did much better than he did the first time. Which only proves Barrera would have most likely schooled Pac in his Best shape/Prime. I mean if you were a top 10 ten p4p fighter/2 time world champion. How hard would you train to fight an unknown filipino fighter coming up in weight to face you? The fact is Barrrera shouldn't have been in the ring with any good fighter Back in 2003-11-15. If it was 25 year old hungry Morales in the ring that 2003-11-15 instead of Pac,and Barrera was in the same shape that he was in. They would have stopped the fight sooner than the 11th.

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Diaz will beat Manny. Pac is getting a little long in the tooth there, he's been around a long time. I think Valero knocks him out.

**BOLLOCKS** · 06-06-2008, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by Silencers

The Terrecampo loss was because of a low blow, he was weight drained for the Singsurat fight and he should have won the Sanchez fight and Sanchez isn't a bum, he's a solid fighter. A but off topic, Sanchez was fouling Pacquiao left right and center in that fight.

If he was really skill less and one handed, his fights with Barrera, JMM and Morales shouldn't have even been close. The first fight was close, Morales won clearly but by no means was it a dominating performance.

Morales didn't fight like a shot fighter for the first half of the second fight.

Pacquiao pretty much won without much difficulty against Barrera in the second fight.

Why didn't you explain the pic?

**miron_lang** · 06-06-2008, 05:53 AM

when PAC fought barrera the 1st time he was in the same status as PAC is today.

Juan Manuel Marquez is at the TOP of his game in the 2 duel with PAC

Erik Morales UD's PAC 115-113. Cut or no cut, Cleto reyes or not. Morales won period.

so what the **** are you talking about?

For everybody's info RichLoc is a PAC fan

**Silencers** · 06-06-2008, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by RichLoc

Why didn't you explain the pic?

It's actually a compliment in a way because you have Bruce Lee in the pic. It's funny though.

**El Jesus** · 06-06-2008, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by RichLoc

Pac can't Beat Bums. So he fights the elderly.

by rich loc

Rustico Torrecampo,Medgoen Singsurat, and Agapito Sanchez

What type of Great fighters. Who are not past there prime. Not be able to Beat fighters of their(Rustico Torrecampo Medgoen Singsurat Agapito Sanchez) caliber? A one handed skill less overrated southpaw thats who.
Only pachaks won't agree with the Fact that Barrera was maybe in his worst shape ever for a fight. When he faced Pac back in 2003,and still pac couldn't KO Barrera. 2004 most people agreed Pac lost to JMM. The real People's *** Champ at 126 was JMM. 2005 Morales coming off his first clear Loss. Easily schooled Pac for 12 rounds. The only thing that gave him trouble was pac's stamina. So when Morales came to the rematch totally drained. That was really the only real big Difference. 2007 pac has a rematch with barrera. Where a slower older Grandpa Barrera did much better than he did the first time. Which only proves Barrera would have most likely schooled Pac in his Best shape/Prime. I mean if you were a top 10 ten p4p fighter/2 time world champion. How hard would you train to fight an unknown filipino fighter coming up in weight to face you? The fact is Barrrera shouldn't have been in the ring with any good fighter Back in 2003-11-15. If it was 25 year old hungry Morales in the ring that 2003-11-15 instead of Pac,and Barrera was in the same shape that he was in. They would have stopped the fight sooner than the 11th.

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There is an obvious bias in this thread, which tells me you have an agenda. i will say that basically, Pacman beat barrera twice, i dont give a **** what the excuses are, barrera lost twice, thats it, end of story. Morales, again, they fought 3 times, Morales lost twice, granted yes, he was past it in the 3rd, it doesnt matter, he lost 2 out of 3.

Those 3 losses pac endured were very early in his career. How many mexican fighters come into their primces with 3/4/5 losses on their record? Look at Soto, who is an awesome fighter and a tough guy to get through, he also has substantial losses, but they came at a young age, just like pacman, these things happen since turning pro young is a learning process.

And since when did Sanchez become a bum?

**BOLLOCKS** · 06-06-2008, 06:04 AM

Pachaks

**MakeDamnSure** · 06-06-2008, 06:09 AM

I'm wondering why some mexicans are exaggerating on how they say Morales schooled and dominated Pac the whole fight. Morales won a 2 point very close fight 115-113 decision, and Pac's face was all bloody by an accidental headbutt in the early rounds and didn't use the Cleto Reyes Gloves..

But still Morales won but some Mexican don't forget that the score was 115-113... Very very close.. How can you call a 113-115 schooled and domination? Maybe that's the only reasoning they can deal with Pac.

**El Jesus** · 06-06-2008, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by MakeDamnSure

I'm wondering why some mexicans are exaggerating on how they say Morales schooled and dominated Pac the whole fight. Morales won a 2 point very close fight 115-113 decision, and Pac's face was all bloody by an accidental headbutt in the early rounds and didn't use the Cleto Reyes Gloves..

But still Morales won but some Mexican don't forget that the score was 115-113... Very very close.. How can you call a 113-115 schooled and domination? Maybe that's the only reasoning they can deal with Pac.

Yes the fight was close, but morales beat pac because pac never adjusted, pac came with the exact same attack practically the whole fight, bloody face or not, he basically toward the end of the fight appeared to have no answer to what morales was doing, it wouldnt have mattered if he used reyes or if he used winning or everlast, pacman was going to lose that first fight no matter what. It was the adjustments in training that allowed him to have much better success with his right hand (as tested on velasquez) and score the KO of morales in 2006.

Pac can't Beat Bums. So he fights the elderly.