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  • Live Dog
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    #21
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    why is guzman overrated? that would make the soto win pretty meaningless when soto hadnt lost in years and was blowing people out of the water.
    I've heard many say the Guzman is next coming of a P4P great and I don't see it. I think he is lazy and will get beat by other top level fighters.

    Soto may have been blowing people out of the water but who were they? The only real tough fighter he had faced in recent times was Rocky and that was a close fight.

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    • El Jesus
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      #22
      Originally posted by Live Dog
      I've heard many say the Guzman is next coming of a P4P great and I don't see it. I think he is lazy and will get beat by other top level fighters.

      Soto may have been blowing people out of the water but who were they? The only real tough fighter he had faced in recent times was Rocky and that was a close fight.
      The other top level fighters arent really begging to fight him though, to be fair, i dont think its fair to say hes overrated when his resume is filled with nothing but solid names within their respective divisions.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Tunney
        Floyd has a carefully hand-picked resume, if you take a look at his opponents. Most of his big wins are shot/past prime fighters, or against fighters hand-picked for their style. He's always avoided technically skilled opponents like Tszyu and Mosley, and prime age opponents like Cotto.
        Mayweather offered Mosley a fight twice. At the time Mayweather was at Junior Welter Hatton had already beaten Kostya, and Mayweather offered Hatton the fight. If Miguel wins then chances are Mayweather and Cotto will go at it.

        You have no points. Try again.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Black Jesus
          The other top level fighters arent really begging to fight him though, to be fair, i dont think its fair to say hes overrated when his resume is filled with nothing but solid names within their respective divisions.
          True that others aren't lining up to fight him, but he's never fought a top-level guy and when he does I think he loses.

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          • boxaholic
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            #25
            MOST UNDERRATED NOW Joshua Clottey Most overrated Zab garbage Judah

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            • Dorian
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              #26
              Underrated
              Felix Sturm

              Overrated
              Andre Berto

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              • Blayde
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dorian
                Underrated
                Felix Sturm
                Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                Under rated:
                - Felix Sturm
                I dont know if a fighter who fought to a draw against Randy Griffin, got knocked out by Castillejo and struggled in his wins over Castillejo and Masoe is really that underrated in todays boxing world.

                Sturm lets his opponents trap him against the ropes and his D isnt tight enough to avoid taking shots there. I like him, but hes definitely a pretty weak champion.

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                • mikec
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by camymcf
                  Haye and hatton - what a surprise that they are in there, though i would agree hatton is on the slide now
                  you keep underestimating haye though, he is fast and punches with big power

                  Overrated -

                  Wladimir Klitschko - Average chin, scared to get hit, only throws a jab, boring to watch, best of a bad bunch at the moment in the heavyweights, its no wonder nobody cares about the heavys anymore, cant wait for a bit of excitement when haye starts his heavyweight career


                  True all he does is throw jabs and an occasional right hand, wouldn't even crack the top 10 HW 8 years ago....

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                  • Flawless
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                    #29
                    Overrated:

                    Calzaghe:
                    Beat some british bums and then beat 43 prehistoric hopkins and take credit in a fight which he struggled. Slaps like a girl.

                    Wladimir Klitschko:
                    Where do I start? He is the biggest fellow but he is afraid of getting hit. Doesn’t even know his right hand is there to be used. Just a big guy with no skill that is destroying boxing. While Kimbo a street bum is helping the growth of MMA. It's sad.

                    Margarito:
                    5 losses and people still think he is at the level of Cotto or Mayweather. Just another overhyped "Mexican warrior" who will be exposed by a skillful fighter.

                    Underrated:
                    Mayweather:
                    Why? He should be P4P top 3 of the history of boxing.His power is highly underrated and people never acknowledge no boxer ever was smart as him.

                    David Haye:
                    He is pretty much the perfect Heavyweight. Speed and power but lacking defence but that can easily be worked on. Hayemaker is coming.

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                    • Scott9945
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by boxaholic
                      MOST UNDERRATED NOW Joshua Clottey Most overrated Zab garbage Judah

                      So who are you picking in the Judah-Clottey fight on August 2?

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