Khan prefers Buddy McGirt over Roger and Roach

[Mr. Ryan]

Why wouldn't ya want the best trainer in the world coaching ya? But buddy mcgurt? Whose rise to fame was not being able to control gatti.

Why is Roger Mayweather the best trainer in the world? Because he has Floyd Mayweather Jr? Is it Roger who makes Floyd, or is it vice-versa?

[Pullcounter]

Why is Roger Mayweather the best trainer in the world? Because he has Floyd Mayweather Jr? Is it Roger who makes Floyd, or is it vice-versa?

khan probably has as much natural talent as floyd... but roger would really polish it.

[abadger]

Why is Roger Mayweather the best trainer in the world? Because he has Floyd Mayweather Jr? Is it Roger who makes Floyd, or is it vice-versa?

Good question. I watched Floyd's pro debut aged 19 the other day, and he wasn't close to the defensive genius we see today. In the post fight either Roger or Jeff really took over and talked about Floyd's game from a trainers POV in a way quite unusual from the normal post-fight interview, but what they actually said was that as he matured, "it would come naturally" more than him being shown.

Clearly training was a huge priority from day one, but clearly Floyd's talent stood out a mile away. I'd say we have a split, with perhaps what is most important is a training team that recognises the talent in front of them and know just how to develop it.

[warp1432]

He should have gone with Roger.

[Mr. Ryan]

Good question. I watched Floyd's pro debut aged 19 the other day, and he wasn't close to the defensive genius we see today. In the post fight either Roger or Jeff really took over and talked about Floyd's game from a trainers POV in a way quite unusual from the normal post-fight interview, but what they actually said was that as he matured, "it would come naturally" more than him being shown.

Clearly training was a huge priority from day one, but clearly Floyd's talent stood out a mile away. I'd say we have a split, with perhaps what is most important is a training team that recognises the talent in front of them and know just how to develop it.

Mayweather was so superior to guys early in his career that he didn't even have to worry about defense. He would just go after guys and take them apart.

Floyd Mayweather Jr was a wonderful boxer in the amateurs and had been using the shoulder-rolling style since before he was a pro. If he didn't want these guys hitting him, they weren't.

Someone once told me that they thought Angelo Dundee was the greatest trainer ever. His argument? Well, naturally since he had Ali and Ray Leonard, there is no argument.

What you have to realize is that Dundee signed them coming out of the Olympics and wasn't their day to day trainer. Dundee however was always present in the corners to give Ali advice.

If I worked Mayweather's corner for a Hatton rematch, Mayweather would still put a whooping on Hatton. That wouldn't make me the greatest trainer in the world.

There are some great trainers that aren't getting the recognition of others because they weren't in the right place at the right time when their guy hit it big.

[NeXt In Line]

What would be the difference between doing padwork with Roger Mayweather instead of Buddy McGirt or Freddy Roach for that matter? I've seen McGirt do pads with fighters, I think the fighters benefit greatly from the work he does.

At the end of the day, it's about how a trainer and a boxer click. Emmanuel Steward is one of the greatest trainers in boxing history, yet Jermain Taylor couldn't benefit much from Steward's training. Kelly Pavlik essentially put Jack Loew on the map, who rates Jack Loew?

If Khan clicks better with McGirt, then certainly he is a superior choice to the other trainers. There is nothing worse than disagreeing philosophically with the man who is training you.

Yeah I see your point I just think that Khan could benefit greatly from the accuracy and intricacy that comes from Roger working pads with you. From what I've seen of Roach on the mitts I just think Roger would work better with Khan based on his speed.

McGirt I haven't really seen work pads with anybody but he could be a good fit, who knows. First thought that came to mind was Roger, just seemed to clique, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as Khan improves, no matter how or with whom.

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah I see your point I just think that Khan could benefit greatly from the accuracy and intricacy that comes from Roger working pads with you. From what I've seen of Roach on the mitts I just think Roger would work better with Khan based on his speed.

McGirt I haven't really seen work pads with anybody but he could be a good fit, who knows. First thought that came to mind was Roger, just seemed to clique, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter as long as Khan improves, no matter how or with whom.

Don't be fooled by McGirt's gut, he is very agile and never misses a beat with his fighters. John David Jackson, who trains Nate Campbell and Allan Green, is also very good with the pads. Every trainer is good but boxing is boxing. It's all about the chemistry between fighter and trainer.

[abadger]

Mayweather was so superior to guys early in his career that he didn't even have to worry about defense. He would just go after guys and take them apart.

Floyd Mayweather Jr was a wonderful boxer in the amateurs and had been using the shoulder-rolling style since before he was a pro. If he didn't want these guys hitting him, they weren't.

Someone once told me that they thought Angelo Dundee was the greatest trainer ever. His argument? Well, naturally since he had Ali and Ray Leonard, there is no argument.

What you have to realize is that Dundee signed them coming out of the Olympics and wasn't their day to day trainer. Dundee however was always present in the corners to give Ali advice.

If I worked Mayweather's corner for a Hatton rematch, Mayweather would still put a whooping on Hatton. That wouldn't make me the greatest trainer in the world.

There are some great trainers that aren't getting the recognition of others because they weren't in the right place at the right time when their guy hit it big.

Absolutely. I've said before that the limits of what a fighter can achieve are ultimately defined by his innate potential. A trainer can only work with what he is given to work with, so a trainer who gets the best is always going to look the best. That said, a trainer's job is to bring out and maximise that potential without any screwups along the way, which is exactly what the Mayweathers have done with Floyd from a very young age, so they surely have to get a whole heap of credit.

I think a huge part of the reason people here want to see Khan train with Roger Mayweather is because that would mean sparring with Floyd. They could do that on their own in a tent in Alaska and it would improve Khan a huge amount, simply because of what you point out, Floyd's immense natural talent.

[FLYBOY]

Amir Khan obviously knows what he's doing... he has high ambitions. so only he knows why McGirt is good.

[Domain]

he should go with either FLOYD SR...or Emmanuel Steward...Buddy McGirt is the worst choice.

I would have Joe Goosen over him..