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    (BETTER) Boxing vs.The Boxer <> The Sport vs. The Team/Athlete......Ur Argument!!!


    [IMG]http://i30.***********.com/albums/c318/Quntel/6jedtz.gif[/IMG]

    What is more important..?

    The Sport or the Athlete/Team to the viewer..??


    Boxing vs. The Boxer....


    Since I know some of you guys hate to read post longer than 3 sentences here is a 5 part summary of the thread...pick a part of the thread and respond. or reply to the summary

    5 Part Summary if u dont want to read the thread..:



    Part 1: The Reason Why People Watch Sports
    [*]People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it

    Part 2:Duality of Sports & Athlete
    [*]People would not watch the sport if not for the athletes of the sport.
    [*]It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!
    [*]Which means one is not bigger than the other...!

    Part 3:How Does Somebody not like the sport in which their favorite athlete plays
    [*]I guess people who say Micheal Jordan is the best ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of basketball

    Part 4:History of Why the Athletes make the Sport
    [*]When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Ratings DROP DRASTICALLY..I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?because Jordan wasn't their nomore...

    Part 5:This is not rocket science ...The Sport by itself is not THE DRAW.what drives people to watch...It is the Athletes & teams

    [*]That's the reason Why did Hockey Lost allot of viewers when Gretzky retired
    [*]That's the reason Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired
    [*]That's the reason Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired








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    :THREAD STARTS HERE






    PART 1
    The Reason Why People Watch Sports


    The Sport itself is not what drives people to watch...!!!
    The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

    Because if that wasn't the case nobody would watch other people play a sport that they could play themselves.

    They would just play it themselves because they were only draw to the sport and not it's players......!!!!


    But you know what happens to make people watch...!!!


    People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it....





    PART 2
    Duality of Sports & Athlete


    The idea that If you watch a sport because of an athlete or the team more than they do the sport itself that you are not a fan is bull****.

    Let me make this point very clear...

    People would not watch the sport if not for the athletes of the sport.
    It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!
    Which means one is not bigger than the other...!



    Why cant people have favorite fighters and also like boxing...
    Thats not a radical idea...You can do both..!!!


    It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!



    PART 3
    How Does Somebody not like the sport in which their favorite athlete plays




    The idea that if you are a avid supporter of one athlete over every other athlete in the sport...
    In some ways mean that you support that athlete over the sport. Is dumb, ******ed, and not intelligent.!


    For Instance:
    • I guess people who say Micheal Jordan is the best ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of basketball
    • I guess people who say Barry Sanders is the best running back ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of football
    • I guess people who say Tiger Woods is the golfer ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of golf
    • I guess people who say the Yankees is the best team ever in baseball are just Supporters of them and are not fans of baseball
    • and Finally for people who say Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer alive are just Supporters of him and are not fans of boxing...



    Where does this rational comes from...??? "Mars"


    Fans are going to be Fans of there favorite team/Athlete that doesn't Mean that they dont like the sport that their team/Athlete plays for.
    ....


    PART 4:
    History of Why the Athletes make the Sport



    When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Rating DROP DRASTICALLY...I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?
    because Jordan wasn't their nomore...????

    or Maybe The NBA didn't have another player like Jordan, to keep the fans still wanting to watch the game...BECAUSE FANS WATCH THE GAME TO BE ENTERTAIN AND see things they themselves can not do .

    And who was the most entertaining person at the time: Micheal Jordan
    Who can could more things the average person could not more than anybody: Micheal Jordan


    That's why THE NBA always had to find the next Micheal Jordan to replace him... And they always Fail because There is no substitute for an orginal.... They are only Comparisons.

    Like the old saying goes

    You can not replace the Sun with the Moon. although they both bring light into the world.

    And in the NBA's case you can not replace Jordan, with Kobe Bryant. Although they both bring the excitement and shine to the NBA. Jordan brings with him something that that Kobe could never bring. Undeniably.
    Jordan is the Sun, While Kobe is the Moon.

    So when Jordan retired from the game, so did his fans. But unlike Jordan the fans can still come back for their whole lifetime.

    Because he introduce the of basketball to people who would of never watch the game at first. those fans gotten the chance what the nba is about when a player like jordan plays. therefore they will come back whenever they hear about player who plays like jordan.

    I.E Kobe Bryant




    PART 5

    This is not rocket science ...The Sport itself is not THE DRAW.
    what drives people to watch...Is the Athletes




    The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

    Why is it that is these sports ratings are up when these athletes play and down when they dont..???

    1.Tiger Woods = Golf
    2.Kobe Bryant = Basketball
    3.Terrell Owens = Football
    4.Oscar De La Hoya = Boxing
    5.Floyd Mayweather = Boxing
    6.Barry Bonds = Baseball
    7.Dale Earlhart Jr= Nascar


    So if people who Play the Sport is Obviously the reason why people watch the sport.
    What is more important..?

    the sport or the athlete to the viewer..??

    or

    Are is it a duality which neither can exist without the other....!!!

    And if you agree that there is duality and people watch the sport because of the athlete and vice versa


    Stop with this you have to be a Fan of the Sport more the athlete Bull****...
    Because without the Athlete their is no Sport..!



    That's the reason Why did Hockey Lost allot of viewers when Gretzky retired
    That's the reason Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired
    That's the reason Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired

    THERE CAN NOT BE SPORTS WITHOUT THE ATHLETES....and vice versa



    So when Some you Floyd Haters Accuse Floyd Fans of being non boxing fans...You sound like Idoits..!


    YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF BOXING IF YOU ONLY LIKE MAYWEATHER, or HATTON, or CALZAGHE, or Pacquaio...

    Doesn't all those people Box..???
    So how can you not like boxing if your favorite person is apart of boxing...??








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    Last edited by Horus; 06-05-2008, 06:27 PM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Horus

    [IMG]http://i30.***********.com/albums/c318/Quntel/6jedtz.gif[/IMG]

    What is more important..?

    The Sport or the Athlete/Team to the viewer..??


    Boxing vs. The Boxer....


    Since I know some of you guys hate to read post longer than 3 sentences here is a 5 part summary of the thread...pick a part of the thread and respond. or reply to the summary

    5 Part Summary if u dont want to read the thread..:



    Part 1: The Reason Why People Watch Sports
    [*]People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it

    Part 2:Duality of Sports & Athlete
    [*]People would not watch the sport if not for the athletes of the sport.
    [*]It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!
    [*]Which means one is not bigger than the other...!

    Part 3:How Does Somebody not like the sport in which their favorite athlete plays
    [*]I guess people who say Micheal Jordan is the best ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of basketball

    Part 4:History of Why the Athletes make the Sport
    [*]When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Ratings DROP DRASTICALLY..I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?because Jordan wasn't their nomore...

    Part 5:This is not rocket science ...The Sport by itself is not THE DRAW.what drives people to watch...It is the Athletes & teams

    [*]That's the reason Why did Hockey Lost allot of viewers when Gretzky retired
    [*]That's the reason Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired
    [*]That's the reason Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired








    ______________NON READERS STOP HERE______________________________


    *********If you Like to Read....The Thread Starts Here, If you dont like to read Feel Free to reply to the Summary.***********************

    _____________READERS START'S HERE________________________________




    :THREAD STARTS HERE






    PART 1
    The Reason Why People Watch Sports


    The Sport itself is not what drives people to watch...!!!
    The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

    Because if that wasn't the case nobody would watch other people play a sport that they could play themselves.

    They would just play it themselves because they were only draw to the sport and not it's players......!!!!


    But you know what happens to make people watch...!!!


    People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it....





    PART 2
    Duality of Sports & Athlete


    The idea that If you watch a sport because of an athlete or the team more than they do the sport itself that you are not a fan is bull****.

    Let me make this point very clear...

    People would not watch the sport if not for the athletes of the sport.
    It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!
    Which means one is not bigger than the other...!



    Why cant people have favorite fighters and also like boxing...
    Thats not a radical idea...You can do both..!!!


    It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!



    PART 3
    How Does Somebody not like the sport in which their favorite athlete plays




    The idea that if you are a avid supporter of one athlete over every other athlete in the sport...
    In some ways mean that you support that athlete over the sport. Is dumb, ******ed, and not intelligent.!


    For Instance:
    • I guess people who say Micheal Jordan is the best ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of basketball
    • I guess people who say Barry Sanders is the best running back ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of football
    • I guess people who say Tiger Woods is the golfer ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of golf
    • I guess people who say the Yankees is the best team ever in baseball are just Supporters of them and are not fans of baseball
    • and Finally for people who say Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer alive are just Supporters of him and are not fans of boxing...



    Where does this rational comes from...??? "Mars"


    Fans are going to be Fans of there favorite team/Athlete that doesn't Mean that they dont like the sport that their team/Athlete plays for.
    ....


    PART 4:
    History of Why the Athletes make the Sport



    When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Rating DROP DRASTICALLY...I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?
    because Jordan wasn't their nomore...????

    or Maybe The NBA didn't have another player like Jordan, to keep the fans still wanting to watch the game...BECAUSE FANS WATCH THE GAME TO BE ENTERTAIN AND see things they themselves can not do .

    And who was the most entertaining person at the time: Micheal Jordan
    Who can could more things the average person could not more than anybody: Micheal Jordan


    That's why THE NBA always had to find the next Micheal Jordan to replace him... And they always Fail because There is no substitute for an orginal.... They are only Comparisons.

    Like the old saying goes

    You can not replace the Sun with the Moon. although they both bring light into the world.

    And in the NBA's case you can not replace Jordan, with Kobe Bryant. Although they both bring the excitement and shine to the NBA. Jordan brings with him something that that Kobe could never bring. Undeniably.
    Jordan is the Sun, While Kobe is the Moon.

    So when Jordan retired from the game, so did his fans. But unlike Jordan the fans can still come back for their whole lifetime.




    PART 5

    This is not rocket science ...The Sport itself is not THE DRAW.
    what drives people to watch...Is the Athletes




    The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

    Why is it that is these sports ratings are up when these athletes play and down when they dont..???

    1.Tiger Woods = Golf
    2.Kobe Bryant = Basketball
    3.Terrell Owens = Football
    4.Oscar De La Hoya = Boxing
    5.Floyd Mayweather = Boxing
    6.Barry Bonds = Baseball
    7.Dale Earlhart Jr= Nascar


    So if people who Play the Sport is Obviously the reason why people watch the sport.
    What is more important..?

    the sport or the athlete to the viewer..??

    or

    Are is it a duality which neither can exist without the other....!!!

    And if you agree that there is duality and people watch the sport because of the athlete and vice versa


    Stop with this you have to be a Fan of the Sport more the athlete Bull****...
    Because without the Athlete their is no Sport..!



    That's the reason Why did Hockey Lost allot of viewers when Gretzky retired
    That's the reason Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired
    That's the reason Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired

    THERE CAN NOT BE SPORTS WITHOUT THE ATHLETES....and vice versa



    So when Some you Floyd Haters Accuse Floyd Fans of being non boxing fans...You sound like Idoits..!


    YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF BOXING IF YOU ONLY LIKE MAYWEATHER, or HATTON, or CALZAGHE, or Pacquaio...

    Doesn't all those people Box..???
    So how can you not like boxing if your favorite person is apart of boxing...??








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    sorry, if you are only a fan of ONE fighter, you are NOT a BOXING fan, you are a groupie.

    if a girl is ONLY a fan of Justin Timberlake and ONLY talks about Justin Timberlake and ONLY listens to Justin Timberlake, is she a fan of music?

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    • Horus
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      #3
      Originally posted by 2501
      sorry, if you are only a fan of ONE fighter, you are NOT a BOXING fan, you are a groupie.

      if a girl is ONLY a fan of Justin Timberlake and ONLY talks about Justin Timberlake and ONLY listens to Justin Timberlake, is she a fan of music?
      When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Rating DROP DRASTICALLY...I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?

      They just like Jordan ...????


      Why did Hockey Lose allot of viewers when Gretzky retired ...?

      Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired..?

      Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired...?

      Why dont people watch Golf when Tiger is not Playing..?





      The Sport itself is not what drives people to watch...!!!
      The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

      Because if that wasn't the case nobody would watch other people play a sport that they could play themselves.

      They would just play it themselves because they were only draw to the sport and not it's players......!!!!


      But you know what happens to make people watch...!!!


      People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it....
      Last edited by Horus; 06-05-2008, 03:42 PM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Horus
        When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Rating DROP DRASTICALLY...I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?

        They just like Jordan ...????


        Why did Hockey Lose allot of viewers when Gretzky retired ...?

        Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired..?

        Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired...?

        Why dont people watch Golf when Tiger is not Playing..?





        The Sport itself is not what drives people to watch...!!!
        The people who plays the Sports is the main factor for viewership...!!!

        Because if that wasn't the case nobody would watch other people play a sport that they could play themselves.

        They would just play it themselves because they were only draw to the sport and not it's players......!!!!


        But you know what happens to make people watch...!!!


        People like watching People do things they themselves can not do because if they could do themselves they would not watch it....
        BoxingScene needs spell check.

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        • 2501
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          #5
          Originally posted by Horus
          When Micheal Jordan retired and NBA Rating DROP DRASTICALLY...I guess those people really didn't like basketball huh..?

          They just like Jordan ...????


          Why did Hockey Lost allot of viewers when Gretzky ...?

          Why did Basketball Lose allot of viewers when Jordan retired..?

          Why did boxing Lose allot of viewers when Ali retired...?
          because they weren't fans of the sport, but only of the individual. you just answered your own question.

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          • Horus
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            #6
            Originally posted by NeXt In Line
            BoxingScene needs spell check.
            What does spell check has to do with the argument....

            So i guess you dont used words like

            BTW
            LOL
            LMAO
            IMO
            TTYL

            Because they are not words right...???

            Get out of here with that....

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            • Horus
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              #7
              Originally posted by 2501
              because they weren't fans of the sport, but only of the individual. you just answered your own question.
              Why People Watch Sports in your opinion...?

              I think People watch sports to see people do things they themselves cannot do...


              Because if that wasn't the case nobody would watch other people play a sport that they could play themselves.

              They would just play it themselves because they were only draw to the sport and not it's players......!!!!







              The idea that If you watch a sport because of an athlete or the team more than they do the sport itself that you are not a fan is bull****.

              Let me make this point very clear...

              People would not watch the sport if not for the athletes of the sport.
              It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!
              Which means one is not bigger than the other...!


              Why cant people have favorite fighters and also like boxing...
              Thats not a radical idea...You can do both..!!!


              It's called duality one can not exist without the other...!




              PART 3
              How Does Somebody not like the sport in which their favorite athlete plays




              The idea that if you are a avid supporter of one athlete over every other athlete in the sport...
              In some ways mean that you support that athlete over the sport. Is dumb, ******ed, and not intelligent.!


              For Instance:
              • I guess people who say Micheal Jordan is the best ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of basketball
              • I guess people who say Barry Sanders is the best running back ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of football
              • I guess people who say Tiger Woods is the golfer ever are just Supporters of him and are not fans of golf
              • I guess people who say the Yankees is the best team ever in baseball are just Supporters of them and are not fans of baseball
              • and Finally for people who say Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer alive are just Supporters of him and are not fans of boxing...



              Where does this rational comes from...??? "Mars"


              Fans are going to be Fans of there favorite team/Athlete that doesn't Mean that they dont like the sport that their team/Athlete plays for.
              ....
              Last edited by Horus; 06-05-2008, 04:01 PM.

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                #8
                Who cares? Boxing will benefit from either viewer. If they get more watchers because a certain fighter is charizmatic, great! If they get viewers because boxing is making interesting matches overall, great! Either way, the boxers who participate benefit and the true boxing fan benefits. I am really just happy that MMA forced boxing to go back to having the best compete against the best. That's what it is really about, so do not get that confused.

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                • Horus
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Chase8400
                  Who cares? Boxing will benefit from either viewer. If they get more watchers because a certain fighter is charizmatic, great! If they get viewers because boxing is making interesting matches overall, great! Either way, the boxers who participate benefit and the true boxing fan benefits. I am really just happy that MMA forced boxing to go back to having the best compete against the best. That's what it is really about, so do not get that confused.
                  In your Opinion What is more important..?

                  The Sport or the Athlete/Team to the viewer..??

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                  • NeXt In Line
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    What does spell check has to do with the argument....

                    So i guess you dont used words like

                    BTW
                    LOL
                    LMAO
                    IMO
                    TTYL

                    Because they are not words right...???

                    Get out of here with that....
                    ...and grammar check

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