Pacquiao vs. Valero Plans Shelved, Montiel vs. Donaire?

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  • cayey
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    #11
    valero who?

    Always picking soft opponents, agree that Valero have fought no one, overrated. Why Pacquiao keep avoiding Joan Guzman? Will get leather all over his face..What a Champion he is. LOL

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    • Quarty
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      #12
      Joanna has been running away from Katsidis & Arthur, he fough nobody, his ass doesn't sell. he never fough morales, barrera, marquez, larios but willing to fight top notch garbages. 2 excuses try to ***** him out from hand injurie to visa problem, hey Joanna just be a professionnal!

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      • miron_lang
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        #13
        Originally posted by cayey
        Always picking soft opponents, agree that Valero have fought no one, overrated. Why Pacquiao keep avoiding Joan Guzman? Will get leather all over his face..What a Champion he is. LOL
        again this avoiding bulls ****s?

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        • VERDUGO
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          #14
          Originally posted by ferocity
          Beside koing Darchinyan im still not buying the hype. He hasn't proven to me the punch he landed wasn't a lucky counter punch.

          Arum just doesn't want to put pacquiao in danger against Valero.
          How the hell would that be a lucky punch when he landed that **** on Darch ALL NIGHT,punished Maldonado with it,and beaten most of his opponents earlier in his career with that left hook.
          I tried to ignore it, but DAMN, some of you mexicans are really biased towards Pinoy boxers, it's so funny and SAD!
          Last edited by VERDUGO; 06-04-2008, 02:01 PM.

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          • v.cassiusali@ya
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            #15
            some boxing charlatans earger to see pacman-valero fight, and why did i say valero doesn't deserve a pac fight? guys, tell me one credible boxer whom valero beat? none! that is why i said valero should fight guzman, barrera or marquez first before fighting pacman. pacman fought ledwaba, sanchez, the undefeated solis, eliezer julio, gabriel mira, lucero, barrera, morales, marquez.

            if valero have fought against any of the high-calibered boxers i've mentioned, then i would say that valero has the right to face pacman.

            valero and guzman are nothing... pacquiao would have an easy fight with the two... simultaneously...

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            • Boofdatruth
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              #16
              Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya
              valero doesn't deseve a title shot with pacquiao. he has proven nothing to earn the right to meet pacquiao.
              valero is a champion in case you didn't know.........pac is being moved correctly..........he won't face valero or guzman..........he has built his rep on old and used up ex-greats........he has no prime guys he has fought with the exception of j.m.m who was 31..........nobody else........he is fighting the easiest champ to hit at lightweight in diaz........he pretty much lost his last fight..........pac is a tough guy........don't get me wrong.......but he is a bit overrated......not skills wise.........overrated by his fans..........he hasn't done much to convince anyone who is not his fan that he is great..................yet.........

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              • kadyo's
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                #17
                Originally posted by boofdatruth
                valero is a champion in case you didn't know.........pac is being moved correctly..........he won't face valero or guzman..........he has built his rep on old and used up ex-greats........he has no prime guys he has fought with the exception of j.m.m who was 31..........nobody else........he is fighting the easiest champ to hit at lightweight in diaz........he pretty much lost his last fight..........pac is a tough guy........don't get me wrong.......but he is a bit overrated......not skills wise.........overrated by his fans..........he hasn't done much to convince anyone who is not his fan that he is great..................yet.........
                pac is overrated by his fans while guzman is underrated by who?

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                • KnockoutTheFat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kadyo
                  pac is overrated by his fans while guzman is underrated by who?
                  Tye Fields. He didn't believe how long Guzman lasted with him until he watched the tape.

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                  • shadeyfizzle
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by boofdatruth
                    valero is a champion in case you didn't know.........pac is being moved correctly..........he won't face valero or guzman..........he has built his rep on old and used up ex-greats........he has no prime guys he has fought with the exception of j.m.m who was 31..........nobody else........he is fighting the easiest champ to hit at lightweight in diaz........he pretty much lost his last fight..........pac is a tough guy........don't get me wrong.......but he is a bit overrated......not skills wise.........overrated by his fans..........he hasn't done much to convince anyone who is not his fan that he is great..................yet.........
                    Pac destroyed ledwaba on the undercard of lewis tyson which stole the show. Larry Merchant was quoted believing he just seen a ATG in the making after the fight. Barerra just came off the biggest win of his career against naseem hamed and was ranked #3 in the world p4p when he got destroyed by a noname Pacquiao who fought on 4days notice.

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                    • miron_lang
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                      #20
                      Guzman I understand but Valero?


                      A little story about being avoided :

                      When Barrera was considered among the TOP 3 fighters pound 4 pound. Manny Pacquiao was the IBF Champion 1 division lower than Barrera. At time Pacquiao realizes that he can beat up barrera he told his then promoter Murrad Muhammad to arrange a showdown with Barrera. Pac's trainer didnt even agree with the idea. PAC's team made an offer and talked to barrera's team. We already know what happened. Props to barrera.

                      Now with Guzman... I think he SHOULD demand a super bout and terminate his manager or promoter if they dont deliver. because its really getting ridicuolus reallly. "Guzman is being avoided by Pacquiao because Pac's team didnt offer a fight"??


                      MAKE THE GOD DAMN OFFER ALREADY !!!!!!! ...If you really have the balls.

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