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  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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    #1

    Something that may not occur to you...

    MATCHMAKER appreciation...in my book I have a section called YOU MIGHT BE A FIGHTER IF...and I have all these examples of things fighters know...I added a couple here and there for people other than boxers...thought you guys might like this one...

    You might be a matchmaker... if you know that being one means you hold one of the most frustrating jobs in all of boxing! People often think being a matchmaker is as simple as calling two guys and asking them if they want to fight. If they both agree to it then it's a done deal, right? Trust me, I know from experience it isn't that simple.

    Over the years I have made the matches for dozens of amateur shows and tournaments and that was certainly frustrating enough but nothing even close to what I went through my one and only time putting together a pro show. It was back in the mid-1990's and I was paid five hundred dollars to put together a six bout local show. "No problem," I thought to myself. "Easy money."

    It is almost a guarantee that the card you start out with is not he exact one that will take place on fight night. There is always someone who gets injured in training, comes in seven pounds heavier than he was supposed to at the weigh-in, is missing a required medical exam that was supposed to be done within five days of the fight, has a former manager/trainer/promoter who has an injunction to either stop him from fighting or has his purse attached if he does go through with it. You find yourself on the phone for what seems like hours every day (and night, even well past midnight) straightening out everything from purse negotiations to disputes over the contracted weight.

    Put it this way: The job was miserable enough for me that I told the person who hired me for it that, "I don't care what you want to pay me in the future to be a matchmaker again. It's not enough. Don't even bother asking next time."
  • Johnny Blayzz
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    #2
    NICE POST!!! Very True ICE-MAN.... It ain't easy...

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    • ANDROID_DOES
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      #3
      Originally posted by Johnny Blayzz
      NICE POST!!! Very True ICE-MAN.... It ain't easy...

      how would you know???? Get off the nutz son lol

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      • cortdawg25
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        #4
        Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
        MATCHMAKER appreciation...in my book I have a section called YOU MIGHT BE A FIGHTER IF...and I have all these examples of things fighters know...I added a couple here and there for people other than boxers...thought you guys might like this one...

        You might be a matchmaker... if you know that being one means you hold one of the most frustrating jobs in all of boxing! People often think being a matchmaker is as simple as calling two guys and asking them if they want to fight. If they both agree to it then it's a done deal, right? Trust me, I know from experience it isn't that simple.

        Over the years I have made the matches for dozens of amateur shows and tournaments and that was certainly frustrating enough but nothing even close to what I went through my one and only time putting together a pro show. It was back in the mid-1990's and I was paid five hundred dollars to put together a six bout local show. "No problem," I thought to myself. "Easy money."

        It is almost a guarantee that the card you start out with is not he exact one that will take place on fight night. There is always someone who gets injured in training, comes in seven pounds heavier than he was supposed to at the weigh-in, is missing a required medical exam that was supposed to be done within five days of the fight, has a former manager/trainer/promoter who has an injunction to either stop him from fighting or has his purse attached if he does go through with it. You find yourself on the phone for what seems like hours every day (and night, even well past midnight) straightening out everything from purse negotiations to disputes over the contracted weight.

        Put it this way: The job was miserable enough for me that I told the person who hired me for it that, "I don't care what you want to pay me in the future to be a matchmaker again. It's not enough. Don't even bother asking next time."
        I guess that easy $$$ turned into minimum wage real quick. all that talking and negotiating for 500, that's cold-blooded! lol

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        • Johnny Blayzz
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          #5
          Originally posted by rogelio1289
          how would you know???? Get off the nutz son lol

          LMAO!!!

          We went through exactly what he's talking about in Brantford, Ontario this past week-end actually (and for the umpteenth time since I've been in this business trying to revive boxing in Canada)... It happens everywhere, all the ****ing time, not that you'd know that... Just an FYI... That's how I'd know...
          Next time take the **** outta your mouth and talk to me straight *****!

          Here's your L-O-****in'-L

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          • Johnny Blayzz
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            #6
            Seriously though rogelio; We had 4 American fighters make the trip and if you still think I'm just blowin' smoke, check out *********.ca

            There's a couple of articles that actually mention how hard it was to get this card off the ground in Ontario, Canada; and with the double bubble and all the BS promoters actually face in Ontario (and apparently only in Ontario) it's nearly freakin' impossible sometimes...

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #7
              Even in the amateurs it is so crazy...the standard rule of thumb is, "If you want a ten bout show? Make 15 to 18 fights (because it is a GUARANTEE that five or six will fall out last minute)>"

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              • Johnny Blayzz
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                #8
                Again... the man speaks the Truth!

                The double bubble may only be in Ontario, but putting on a Boxing Show really can be a lot of work, and YESSS that totally includes the AMS!

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                • steptwome
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                  MATCHMAKER appreciation...in my book I have a section called YOU MIGHT BE A FIGHTER IF...and I have all these examples of things fighters know...I added a couple here and there for people other than boxers...thought you guys might like this one...

                  You might be a matchmaker... if you know that being one means you hold one of the most frustrating jobs in all of boxing! People often think being a matchmaker is as simple as calling two guys and asking them if they want to fight. If they both agree to it then it's a done deal, right? Trust me, I know from experience it isn't that simple.

                  Over the years I have made the matches for dozens of amateur shows and tournaments and that was certainly frustrating enough but nothing even close to what I went through my one and only time putting together a pro show. It was back in the mid-1990's and I was paid five hundred dollars to put together a six bout local show. "No problem," I thought to myself. "Easy money."

                  It is almost a guarantee that the card you start out with is not he exact one that will take place on fight night. There is always someone who gets injured in training, comes in seven pounds heavier than he was supposed to at the weigh-in, is missing a required medical exam that was supposed to be done within five days of the fight, has a former manager/trainer/promoter who has an injunction to either stop him from fighting or has his purse attached if he does go through with it. You find yourself on the phone for what seems like hours every day (and night, even well past midnight) straightening out everything from purse negotiations to disputes over the contracted weight.

                  Put it this way: The job was miserable enough for me that I told the person who hired me for it that, "I don't care what you want to pay me in the future to be a matchmaker again. It's not enough. Don't even bother asking next time."
                  ..................and this probably a Portion of what goes on

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                  • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by steptwome
                    ..................and this probably a Portion of what goes on
                    Promoters, managers, matchmakers, booking agents, middle men, etc etc etc etc are All NEEDED TO MAKE A SHOW COMPLETE

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