you gotta take into consideration the motives of the witnesses. where these "witnesses" once suspects who were given deals for testifying against other people?
Two Witnesses: Shane Knew He Was Taking Steriods!!!
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He's not being prosecuted or charged with anything, so how could he be proven guilty?
In the court of public opinion, Mosley has been labeled a cheater. He knew what he was doing and he can't pull the wool over the eyes of realist boxing fans.Comment
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It's a figure of speech.Comment
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Especially 'football', basketball, baseball which are the only sports that matter right? Coincidentally the only ones Americans like to play by themselves.
Also, if you transcend "sub-par" ness by using steroids, how on earth is that an achievement of any kind?Comment
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Way to get involved in a troll fest. Maybe you should calm down.
Are you actually suggesting that only Americans play basketball and baseball? OKAAAYYYYY. Step away from the crack pipe. Check out this thing called the OLYMPICS for more of this basketball you speak of (nevermind all the Euros and Latins in the NBA).And I'm pretty sure Japan for example would take issue with your point on baseball.
If you really want to get started, when's the last time the UK won anything in:
Rugby, Cricket, or Football (soccer)? I'll breathlessly await your serious response, or you could realize that I'm responding to a ****ING TROLL ***** that needs to get a verbal beatdown, and that you by siding with him because of your nationality, look like an *******. He doesn't have any points just baseless accusations, because he's hurt that some "yank"(whatever the **** that is) boxer kicked the **** out of his countrymen so he has to invent some steroid boogeyman to justify it.
And as for steroids, that's neither here nor there, but it's arbitrary to ban them. If everyone is taking them there is no advantage. If no one is well then there might be one. It's not like the Olympics are any cleaner. And it's not like the other stuff athletes in ALL sports do for their lifestyle is healthy.
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You are too angry. Calm down. I only responded to the statement by asking a question. I hope you are not suggesting that the US triumverate of 'football', baseball and basketball is any way even comparable in worldwide popularity to the three worldwide sports of football, cricket and rugby.Way to get involved in a troll fest. Maybe you should calm down.
Are you actually suggesting that only Americans play basketball and baseball? OKAAAYYYYY. Step away from the crack pipe. Check out this thing called the OLYMPICS for more of this basketball you speak of (nevermind all the Euros and Latins in the NBA).And I'm pretty sure Japan for example would take issue with your point on baseball.
If you really want to get started, when's the last time the UK won anything in:
Rugby, Cricket, or Football (soccer)? I'll breathlessly await your serious response, or you could realize that I'm responding to a ****ING TROLL ***** that needs to get a verbal beatdown, and that you by siding with him because of your nationality, look like an *******. He doesn't have any points just baseless accusations, because he's hurt that some "yank"(whatever the **** that is) boxer kicked the **** out of his countrymen so he has to invent some steroid boogeyman to justify it.
And as for steroids, that's neither here nor there, but it's arbitrary to ban them. If everyone is taking them there is no advantage. If no one is well then there might be one. It's not like the Olympics are any cleaner. And it's not like the other stuff athletes in ALL sports do for their lifestyle is healthy.
Case closed.
Football, your soccer, is the most popular sport on the planet, it's world cup a larger, more watched event then the olympics, end of story.
Cricket is a truly global sport with genuine international competition, known as Test Matches, contested competitively by England, Australia, South Africa, India, Pakistan, ****ladesh, Sri Lanka and many others. It is probably the most popular sport on the Indian subcontinent.
Rugby too, is an internationally contested sport with a genuinely global following, it has a world cup as well as a healthy rivalry for supremacy between the hemispheres of the WORLD. Major rugby playing nations are England, Australia, New Zealand, France, Ireland, Italy, Wales, South Africa and many, many others compete at a lower level than these.
It might be argued that basketball is more popular as a spectator sport than rugby, but it is not played internationally outside of the olympics, and is certainly only played to its highest standard in the US. 'Football' and baseball simply cannot compete with the true international sports I list. If you think otherwise you are just wrong.
As for UK achievement, well we were rugby world champions not long ago and won crickets most prestigous competition "The Ashes", against Australia, the best team in the world not long ago too. We are not the best in the world at any of these sports, but that is because all of them are contested at the highest level by a great many countries. Wales, part of the UK are currently the best team in Europe at rugby.
I should add that club level, the UK soccer league 'The Premiership' is probably the strongest in the world. In the European Champions League, which is best compared to the NFL playoffs and superbowl or the baseball world series, the English league supplied the eventual champions, both finalists and three of the four semi-finalists, and this in a competition contested by clubs from all over Europe.
EDIT: Also, you shouldn't defend taking steroids, it is indefensible. Dwain Chambers, one of our best 100m runners tested positve and is now some sort of pariah, shunned and barred from taking place in presitigous athletics events.Last edited by abadger; 06-02-2008, 11:43 AM.Comment
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----You are too angry. Calm down. I only responded to the statement by asking a question. I hope you are not suggesting that the US triumverate of 'football', baseball and basketball is any way even comparable in worldwide popularity to the three worldwide sports of football, cricket and rugby.
Football, your soccer, is the most popular sport on the planet, it's world cup a larger, more watched event then the olympics, end of story.
Cricket is a truly global sport with genuine international competition, known as Test Matches, contested competitively by England, Australia, South Africa, India, Pakistan, ****ladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and many others. It is probably the most popular sport on the Indian subcontinent.
Rugby too, is an internationally contested sport with a genuinely global following, it has a world cup as well as a healthy rivalry for supremacy between the hemispheres of the WORLD. Major rugby playing nations are England, Australia, New Zealand, France, Ireland, Italy, Wales, South Africa and many, many others compete at a lower level than these.
It might be argued that basketball is more popular as a spectator sport than rugby, but it is not played internationally outside of the olympics, and is certainly only played to its highest standard in the US. 'Football' and baseball simply cannot compete with the true international sports I list. If you think otherwise you are just wrong.
As for UK achievement, well we were rugby world champions not long ago and won crickets most prestigous competition "The Ashes", against Australia, the best team in the world not long ago too. We are not the best in the world at any of these sports, but that is because all of them are contested at the highest level by a great many countries. Wales, part of the UK are currently the best team in Europe at rugby.
I should add that club level, the UK soccer league 'The Premiership' is probably the strongest in the world. In the European Champions League, which is best compared to the NFL playoffs and superbowl or the baseball world series, the English league supplied the eventual champions, both finalists and three of the four semi-finalists, and this in a competition contested by clubs from all over Europe.
EDIT: Also, you shouldn't defend taking steroids, it is indefensible. Dwain Chambers, one of our best 100m runners tested positve and is now some sort of pariah, shunned and barred from taking place in presitigous athletics events.
Rugby is not as popular as you'd like to believe.
I already mentioned Soccer and Cricket so I'm not sure what you're on about. And yet you brought up American Football EVEN THOUGH I NEVER MENTIONED IT. Why is that?
Yes you are correct, the UK isn't the best at any of those three sports. Carry on.
Basketball is far more popular than you believe but whatever. To carry on like it's not global but Rugby is simply a matter of delusion. But whatever floats your boat. Guess countries in all of Latin America don't count, nor do all the Germans that play basketball or the Eastern Europeans.Comment

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