Mayweather Jr. Defends Choice of De La Hoya Over Cotto

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  • jberg
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    #221
    cant say im suprised. hes just trying to justify it to himself really. maybe his competitiveness will come back and hell put the critics to bed with a cotto fight

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    • RodBarker
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      #222
      Originally posted by jberg
      cant say im suprised. hes just trying to justify it to himself really. maybe his competitiveness will come back and hell put the critics to bed with a cotto fight
      Exactly , I feel most of his bragging is to put pressure on himself , like when he really dogs a fighter he is fighting its to keep his nose to the grind wheel to give himself motivation , the more he talks the more pressure he has put on himself to perform ,, who knows where Floyd really sits in history , we dont know untill he has finished boxing for good as yet he hasnt proved anything other than he is a very special fighter .

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      • jk4real
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        #223
        I hope every1 now sees who are the real unfriendly ppl around here. I think that Floyd ''Fans'' argue for the most in a good way. The Haters are throwing some bad remarks around. And if you don't believe it, go back to the first page and start counting.

        It's good to see that ppl still care about Floyd. Article is out and a few days later 23 pages. That's nice to see.

        It's really sad that some ppl have absolutely no clue about the history and about boxers in history and then start to mix it up an make unbelievable comments. Ray Robinson was every bit of an ******* that you can imagine. And let me tell you that he called his shots. If you think DLH is bad, then you ain't no nothing about Ray Robinson for that matter. But he was still an unique fighter. Like I stated before you can't compare boxer's from this era to the other era. If Floyd would have fought at this time he would also have a lot more fights. And if Ray Robinson would have fought today he would not have that many fights!!! Again the media. I mean you can see how less ppl know about Ray Robinson even though he's ''the greatest fighter ever''. Everybody knows everything about Floyd. If Floyd fought in that age he would probably have a standing like a Willie Pep. But he fights in this era so everybody has to voice his opinion.

        It's funny how ppl run down Floyd's opponents. Really it makes me wonder how much they fantasize. You want to see him fight Margarito. First off who has he fought??? I do not want to bash him but who did he fought. Kermit Cintron he beat him up twice ok and lost against Paul Williams. Kermit is mentally a weak fighter and will never beat any real good WW or whatever. Paul Williams has size and his fun to watch but who has he fought??? This fight would be most boring, because floyd would pot shot him all day and move. And also I don't know why Margarito has a right to fight him.

        Cotto faced far better competition. But better as Mayweather??? Maybe at 147 pounds but career overall never ever. Because Floyd did fight everybody at his natural weight class and the weight class over it. But I agree the Cotto fight should be the most interesting one. I doubt that Cotto can come close to him enough but he at least has a lot of the tools that is needed to beat Floyd.

        I mean it's real fun how you ppl give everybody credit but Floyd. DLH only fought the best??? Yeah, a lot of ppl who were past their primes (one of them twice). And that's the reason why ppl fight so hard to become a markee name, because nobody wants to fight to be 40 and on top. You want to be on top and call your shots. I mean DLH beat up JCC twice and a Whitaker and he surely not did it for his legacy. It was to beat an past prime markee name. Every fighter does it.

        Fighters like Bruseless and Sharmba Mitchell if you want to call them weak is something that some ppl call adjusting to a weight. Not everybody jumps from weight to weight and fights the best right away. Bruseless was his first fight I think at JWW and Mitchell his first at WW so whaaat... I mean these two names are the only ones that Haters can come up with??? WOW in 39 fights he fought 2 ''bums''. Arturo Gatti had a name and a crowd at Atlantic City. So it makes business sense.

        He's coward??? You can call a boxer maybe mentally weak but coward. I don't know where you take your opinions from. Floyd is not mentally weak so I don't know what you ppl talking about. I've never seen him panic even if something doesn't work the way he wants it to be. He's always in control so I don't know why he should be. About the ducking thing... I think you can tell he ducked everybody that he hasn't fought. But you can also say that every boxer duck everybody that the boxer doesn't fight.

        He wanted to face Shane at the time he was 135 I think it was. But Shane wouldn't want to fight him. And I know this can be true because Shane fights everybody. But what should I say, he also said he ain't took steroids. Now he wants Mayweather because he's the man. Shane is a sucker for money like everyone else. But not Shane, no he wants him to fight because he's the best... he had the same skillz at 135 only that he even threw more combo's.

        He's not warrior? Why? Because he doesn't go in there with a mediocre opponent and sluggs with him? Because he doesn't give a mediocre opponent a chance to be on a level with him and a chance of winning??? Because against somebody who hasn't the skill set to beat him, he doesn't get hit against the head enough so that his brain cells are dying??? Some ppl have really a weird understanding of boxing. Boxing is not about being a warrior. That was a few Centurys ago in Rome. Boxing is about being a Boxer. I mean it's nice to have legacy and ppl talking about for a long time, but I guess it's not so nice if you ain't got money fpr something that you sacrificed so hard and then even be mentally ill or whatever.

        Carlisle... oh you're sparring with ranked HW. You have also a very weird understanding of boxing so I really don't want to know who are these supposed ranked HW's are. This means you are boxer??? And you still want to slap ppl around. Somebody like you should really not have a pic of Muhammad Ali in his Avatar. And also you really picked a fight huh??? Against some1 who's in your weight class... you really a bad man... my respect really grows. As being boxer you should know that a boxer is not allowed to hit any1. So I can open my mouth big time against every boxer I want too. I hope you do it with some1 who doesn't give a **** and really beats you up. Maybe you should opne your mouth up big time against some1 like Mike Tyson. But please do it front of a cam. This is going to be priceless *laugh*

        IMO a fighter has not always to fight the best to upstay his position. The P4P list was not invented for some1 who fights the best all the time, it was invented for ppl who have the most skills. It was invented for Ray Robinson because no1 would gave him a title shot but he was still considered the best... so they invented it to name the best boxer. That's the original meaning of it. What you guys make of it it's your problem. Floyd is the most skilled fighter. So he rangs on top rightfully IMO. And also I consider him to fighting the best. He fought DLH, who I consider (even though I don't like him) still one of the best. Yes, he's past his prime... but he would still beat a lot of WW. He fought Hatton who's one of the best JWW. Alright a weight class under it but still one of the best at his class. So I think his competition is really moving up. He fights Oscar again and afterwards it can only be retirement or Cotto. A second Hatton Fight would be unacceptable!!! And if that happens it wouldn't change my view of him as a fighter or if he's a coward or not... it's just plain and simple not acceptable!!!

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        • IconBoy
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          #224
          Mayweather sucks donkey ****, he could have been the greatest, hes not even going to go down as great if he carries on with this ****.
          lol @ the nuthuggers trying to defend it, can you get off floyds **** you sickos.

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            #225
            Originally posted by IconBoy
            Mayweather sucks donkey ****, he could have been the greatest, hes not even going to go down as great if he carries on with this ****.
            lol @ the nuthuggers trying to defend it, can you get off floyds **** you sickos.
            Finally a good post. A lot of arguments. No disrespecting comments or words. Something like that is really missing here. Language is such a beautiful thing, it's really embarrasing how some ppl **** it.

            He could have been the greatest??? Another dissapointed man, because Floyd told him that he's str8. You guys should not bring your personal relationship problems into this. Some men like ****s, some don't. So don't take it personally Icon Boy... there are a lot of ****s out there for you.

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            • esco23
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              #226
              this fights is " the real hustle"

              im not ordering this fight and i am a super die hard boxing fan- this fight reminds me of street hustling- trying to feed boxing fiends a dream fight- (which this fight we beat an exact repeat of the first with no risks and maybe even a draw to captialize on a 3rd match 4 more "free money")while milking the pockets of hard working americans- floyd is not the greatest of all time beacause he is not what we call a "throwback fighter" - fighters fighting the best in their prime- however i must say early in floyds career he did fight the best that was out there at the time- but as his fame rose and money rose he chose to fit in the postion " make the most money with the least risk" - i respect his hustle - which is very smart in a "business sense" - but in a boxing sense its the worst move, especially to say u are the greatest of all time- to be the greatest in my opinion - you have to sustain a top level of opppostion throughout your career especially in "your prime" anything less would be uncivilized(common sense) - to fight de la hoya again- past his prime - is like watching a rerun of your favorite tv show- its somingthing u want to watch but u know whats going to happen - straight hustle- Floyd u claim to be the greatest of all time like the throwbacks- fight cotto- who clearly deserves to be in the ring with u- and who is taking a fight with margarito - which is prolly 1 of the biggest risk nothing too gain fights 4 a champion such as cotto in the history of boxing- take heed from a true champion - cotto- and give the hard working fans such as myself, a fight worth the 50 dollars, which is alot of money 4 me personally, and not the "hustle" u are bout to give in september

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              • FalconBalla2
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                #227
                All you haters sit down... HE IS the reason people still watch boxing.... breaking payper view records.... he is right... cotto ain't **** and ain't fight nobody....**** him. Floyd is boxing G.O.A.T. by faaaaaaaaaaaaaar. and to those saying 37 y/o sugar shane or bozo no defense having zab judah get the **** out of here.... he still got a long way to go... and he'll lose to Margarito. ya'll floyd hater go sit on some d*ck

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                • Kilrain
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                  #228
                  Cotto-Margarito puts Oscar-Floyd 2 completely in the shade among genuine boxing fans. That is a fight. Oscar-Floyd 2 is not a fight, it's a promotion.

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                  • jk4real
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by esco23
                    im not ordering this fight and i am a super die hard boxing fan- this fight reminds me of street hustling- trying to feed boxing fiends a dream fight- (which this fight we beat an exact repeat of the first with no risks and maybe even a draw to captialize on a 3rd match 4 more "free money")while milking the pockets of hard working americans- floyd is not the greatest of all time beacause he is not what we call a "throwback fighter" - fighters fighting the best in their prime- however i must say early in floyds career he did fight the best that was out there at the time- but as his fame rose and money rose he chose to fit in the postion " make the most money with the least risk" - i respect his hustle - which is very smart in a "business sense" - but in a boxing sense its the worst move, especially to say u are the greatest of all time- to be the greatest in my opinion - you have to sustain a top level of opppostion throughout your career especially in "your prime" anything less would be uncivilized(common sense) - to fight de la hoya again- past his prime - is like watching a rerun of your favorite tv show- its somingthing u want to watch but u know whats going to happen - straight hustle- Floyd u claim to be the greatest of all time like the throwbacks- fight cotto- who clearly deserves to be in the ring with u- and who is taking a fight with margarito - which is prolly 1 of the biggest risk nothing too gain fights 4 a champion such as cotto in the history of boxing- take heed from a true champion - cotto- and give the hard working fans such as myself, a fight worth the 50 dollars, which is alot of money 4 me personally, and not the "hustle" u are bout to give in september
                    Agreed on a few things. I think it's also what you expect. If you wanna see a real fight you probably watch Cotto. And we're in Germany are lucky... cuz there ain't nothing like PPV's for us. We have a program that shows the biggest fights for free and live. I wouldn't pay 50 bucks for a fight anyway.

                    I personally disagree with Margarito though. It's a risk yes of course, everyfight is and ecspecially against a rough, tough man. But Margarito is no where near something that I would call a great boxer. He's very mediocre. But he's tough and comes forward. But if Cotto can't beat him, I would be deadly disappointed. Cotto showed so much skillz and if he can't beat Margarito decisevely I would badly disappointed. Like I said Margarito is average. He's tough and has a good work rate with decent power so he's a threat. But to be great, which I consider Cotto, he has to beat a man like this decisevely. The beginning is the beginning but somewhere in the fight he simply has to show that he's superior, which he is and should be.

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                    • El Dominicano
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                      #230
                      Everyone has their own opinions but u think I'm happy he disrespected my favorite fighter of all time? Hell No! He forgot to mention that SRR beat all that has beaten him not once or twice but sometimes even 3 times. Ur record is special once u can avenge ur lose. See Mayweather is a great fighter but he ain't ****ing with Robinson. The only thing he has over Robinson is defense Smarts: Is Equal.

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