Wladimir Klitschko aint even in the to 30 P4p

[msagrain]

If the top heavyweight in the world is not in the top 16* Lb for Lb, there is def a serious ranking problem.

*I believe there to be 16 total weight classes. The best in each weight division deserve to be in those spots in any order at least. Ring Rankings are ****. They have put Hopkins in the top 10 lb for lb since the Trinidad fight and failed to remove him since losing 3 out of his last 6 fights. that is fricken sad. Rafael Marquez was beat consecutively by KO and has bumped Ricky Hatton out of the top 10 when all he did was lose to the best lb for lb fighter in the world and has since won on the rebound in convincing fashion. Wlad deserves to be in the top 10 lb for lb, no doubt in my mind. I bet if Golden Boy was his promoter, he would be. I hope i have made this crystal clear.

If B-hop and wlad both had a fight with each othre and were the same size, height and weight... who do you think would win?

[Mike Tyson77]

If B-hop and wlad both had a fight with each othre and were the same size, height and weight... who do you think would win?

youre a moron.

[Silencers]

Klitschko makes a solid argument to be a top 10 pound for pound fighter today.

[Chase8400]

If B-hop and wlad both had a fight with each othre and were the same size, height and weight... who do you think would win?

Why ask such an ignorant question. Wlad has way, and understand me when i say..................WAY more boxing skill than B-hop. Hopkins can however, out dirty fight anyone in the game with the exception of Floyd Mayweather Jr. In a fairly officiated fight, lb for lb Wlad would own Hopkins. His hands are as fast now let alone at the same weight and with a jab like that, B-hop has no chance. Look at what Taylor's "decent" jab done to Hopkins. I wonder what you will say next.

[Addition]

msagrain, WLAD OWNS is going to pwn you when he sees this thread. He'll probably say this, "Wlad is going to beat your boy Haye. Haye's flaws and weaknesses - glass chin + **** defence + poor stamina + keeps his left hand too low + amatuerish style = Brutally KO'd and exposed at heavyweight."

[msagrain]

msagrain, WLAD OWNS is going to pwn you when he sees this thread. He'll probably say this, "Wlad is going to beat your boy Haye. Haye's flaws and weaknesses - glass chin + **** defence + poor stamina + keeps his left hand too low + amatuerish style = Brutally KO'd and exposed at heavyweight."

Words are words, he can say what ever the **** he wants, come fight night it will be a different story.

[Hitman932]

Words are words, he can say what ever the **** he wants, come fight night it will be a different story.

If David Haye even makes it to a Klitschko fight without losing first it will be a huge moral victory

What do Lolenga Mock, Carl Thompson and Jean Mark Mormeck all have in common... well two things actually

1. they all dropped David Haye
2. they all fought as LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS before moving to cruiser

So basically Haye has been dropped by guys who are 60-70 pounds smaller than Wlad. not hard to figure out who will knock who out when they fight.

[Mike Tyson77]

If David Haye even makes it to a Klitschko fight without losing first it will be a huge moral victory

What do Lolenga Mock, Carl Thompson and Jean Mark Mormeck all have in common... well two things actually

1. they all dropped David Haye
2. they all fought as LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS before moving to cruiser

So basically Haye has been dropped by guys who are 60-70 pounds smaller than Wlad. not hard to figure out who will knock who out when they fight.

finally, someone with a brain.

[T-97]

msagrain, WLAD OWNS is going to pwn you when he sees this thread. He'll probably say this, "Wlad is going to beat your boy Haye. Haye's flaws and weaknesses - glass chin + **** defence + poor stamina + keeps his left hand too low + amatuerish style = Brutally KO'd and exposed at heavyweight."

That is exactly what he says everytime he talks about David Haye!

[Scott9945]

If David Haye even makes it to a Klitschko fight without losing first it will be a huge moral victory

What do Lolenga Mock, Carl Thompson and Jean Mark Mormeck all have in common... well two things actually

1. they all dropped David Haye
2. they all fought as LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS before moving to cruiser

So basically Haye has been dropped by guys who are 60-70 pounds smaller than Wlad. not hard to figure out who will knock who out when they fight.

Excellent comments.