If Cotto beats Margarito..........

[PRp4p757]

Team Cotto made Cotto the fighter he is today. Top Rank got him fights and helped him out promotionally, but they didn't help him in the ring. He did that. If he'd lost they'd have cut him lose like all promoters do when they realize their investment isn't paying off.

Also, the fact you're ignoring is that Mayweather's popularity skyrocketed immediately after leaving Top Rank. Oscar has done double and triple the numbers he used to do before leaving Top Rank. Cotto is in position to do the same. Why not cut out the middle man?

I always read and hear that sanctioning bodies and multiple titles have ruined boxing. Promoters and tv execs run boxing. If anything they are equality guilty in the blame. I'm glad boxers are standing up for themselves because fans won't do it. They'll support Bob Arum to the end if Bob Arum doesn't get his way.

Cotto wants to fight Mayweather. Does he have to insist on paying Arum while he's fighting Mayweather? It's ******. He can run his own career. He doesn't need Arum. Floyd left Arum and got the Oscar fight. There's no shame in that. It's not a mark against him. Cotto could do the same and I wouldn't think any less of him in the ring.

You make your bones in the ring. He can get a fight with Mayweather and if he wins...P4P #1. But he'd rather be loyal to Arum.

see thats where you are wrong my friend. right now there are loads of fighters that could have proably been better than anyone fighting today and why it didnt happen, bad management. yes they have to put in the work and train and a certain large amount of a complete fighter has to come from that fighter but all that would not mean **** if they would not have had good match making to bring them up and give them the experience necessary to compete at the elite level.

[BMWM3P]

Much weaker competition? Shane Mosley used steroids to get a gift decision against Oscar. Zab is Zab is Zab. Same guy. Gomez sucks. Hatton, midget or not, is better than him. Baldomir and Margarito may be of the same calibre. If anything Margarito is younger and might be better, but Baldomir held the linear title at the time and paid just as well so Floyd went with that fight.

Explain to me how Floyd is fighting much weaker competition...AND you don't get to steal Bob Arum's talking points this time either.

Comparing Baldomir to Margarito is just plain dumb, Margarito would destroy that bum and Floyd ducked Margarito way before Baldomir was even in the picture. DLH now would get destroyed by Mosley and at 147 I think Gomez would give Hatton problems after seing his performance against Lazcano, a lifetime lightweight. You also forgot to mention Quintana the man who beat the most feared fighter in welterweights, lol, Paul Williams.

Cotto is fighting ranked top welters, not over the hill fighters, overblown midgets and then after beating them wanting to rematch them. He's always willing to fight the best and the only reason he hasn't fought Mayweather is because Mayweather wants no part of him.

[Boofdatruth]

you are contradicting yuorself. how can you say that logic is wrong and turn around and use what mayweather has done in the past as to why he is better than cotto. i agree that you cant say a fighter is better because what he did to another fighter but it has to be across the board. you cant say cause what floyd did to hatton or corrales or dlh that he will do it to cotto because like you said styles make fights. anything else is just biased

floyd in many people's eyes was the best pfp fighter before he even hit welterweight......floyd rose in weight looking for challenges......he even fought a evangelista cotto trained fighter in bruseles looking for a fight with cotto or gatti.........he got the gatti fight...........i don't down play anything cotto has done at welter.........it just bugs me out that cotto fans think cotto's resume is far greater than floyds at welter when they are about the same...........remember, cotto received his title off of baldy being stripped.....cotto hasn't fought and beaten margs yet.......cotto fans are picking cotto, floyd fans are picking floyd......guys are calling floyd this corny name of *****.....when floyd fans can call cotto migay or como oir cotto the ****....i don;'t get down with that even in fun.............i could do that......but i have respect for cotto.......i understand name calling can be fun......but the stuff guys come up with here, and their logic is comical.......

[PRp4p757]

why don't you try doing business with a man who never had your best interest, a man who tried to get you beat..........and a guy who owes you money..............try it..........see what you get out if it........floyd bought out his contract with Arum for a reason.........ok.........and try to be a boxing fan.........and not just a cotto fan.............

look who is talking. i have been more than a fan of boxing i was a boxer. i know how this **** works. you cant see past floyd and eveything he says is the be all end all. i am a grown ass man and i make up my own mind all i see is an ungrateful guy who after he got eveything he needed from arum and then ****ted on him. and thats cool cause its buisness right but then arum isnt in this **** for 50 years to just makes friends he doing buisness too but thats wrong. l

[bsrizpac]

look who is talking. i have been more than a fan of boxing i was a boxer. i know how this **** works. you cant see past floyd and eveything he says is the be all end all. i am a grown ass man and i make up my own mind all i see is an ungrateful guy who after he got eveything he needed from arum and then ****ted on him. and thats cool cause its buisness right but then arum isnt in this **** for 50 years to just makes friends he doing buisness too but thats wrong. l

For a boxer you sure are just as bad as the people who you criticize.

[Boofdatruth]

If that's the case then I need more from Williams then to say he is a legit top welter.
What top welters has be beaten? Sharmba Mitchell and Margarito?
Who has Margarito beaten? just Kermit Cintron and Clottey?
Who has Cintron beaten? just Jesse Felciano?
Who has Mayweather beat? just Baldomir and Judah?

see what I mean.. your ish don't work.

so what does this tell you................?????.......lol..........it tells you that by beating 1 fighter in the welter division.........that 1 fight won't make you the best welterweight.......we need more from floyd, margs, williams, quintana, and cotto......we are getting close to fidning out who the best is.........the winner of cotto and margs won't tell me that..........it only tells cotto and margs fans that lunacy.........

[PRp4p757]

floyd in many people's eyes was the best pfp fighter before he even hit welterweight......floyd rose in weight looking for challenges......he even fought a evangelista cotto trained fighter in bruseles looking for a fight with cotto or gatti.........he got the gatti fight...........i don't down play anything cotto has done at welter.........it just bugs me out that cotto fans think cotto's resume is far greater than floyds at welter when they are about the same...........remember, cotto received his title off of baldy being stripped.....cotto hasn't fought and beaten margs yet.......cotto fans are picking cotto, floyd fans are picking floyd......guys are calling floyd this corny name of *****.....when floyd fans can call cotto migay or como oir cotto the ****....i don;'t get down with that even in fun.............i could do that......but i have respect for cotto.......i understand name calling can be fun......but the stuff guys come up with here, and their logic is comical.......

i can respect that because it kills me when floyd fans **** on cottos resume when i too think they are pretty much the same. as many cotto fans that talk bad about floyd you can say 10 times more floyd fans **** on cotto.

[PRp4p757]

For a boxer you sure are just as bad as the people who you criticize.

who am i critcizing, im talking about mayweather.

[Sin City]

Who said that? stop self owning yourself please. You making yourself look like a fool. The reason Cotto is better then Williams is because of the opposition that he has beat. Williams still ain't on Cotto's level when it comes to resumes!
And it isn't bad logic to think that he is better welterweight then Floyd if he beats Marg because he will have pretty much cleared out the division and what has Mayweather done of recent past that is noteworthy???.....??......????...???
you a joke.


The person who said that Tony wasn't **** because he lost to Williams wasn't me.. it was one of your ***** boys.

you have no reason as to how you know cotto is better than williams........none.......all you have is your worthless opinion of who beat who...........that's it.........and second, cotto if he beats margs hasn't cleaned out ****.........so what are you even talking about..........third, if he beats margs, will cotto be the best pfp over floyd in your worthelss opinion since in your mind he will be the best welter.................yes or no.........very simple.......you are the joke.........maybe if you get floyd out of your head and think rationally ..........someone might respect your sorry posts.........you're just scared to death cotto can lose.......scared to death he might lose to margs.........lol........snicker.........

you a funny fool. I'm not at all scared Cotto can lose to Marg, I know Cotto can lose to Margarito and that is a high probability. If he does lose, good or Marg! Maybe finally he will get the fights he has always been desperately wanting.
Cotto is better then Williams.. tell me, how do you determine who the best is then?
And if we used a tournament bracket system.. the only one left standing would be Cotto so yes, he has cleared it out. And I don't follow the P4P lists.. because someone is P4P doesn't mean they can beat anyone in a higher division or lower. But since you *****s like to talk P4P if he were to beat Margarito IMO yes it would warrant Cotto being above Mayweather if Mayweather doesn't fight anyone of significance this year. It's obvious that you are a fool and a hater. I'm done talking with ignents. Run along now..

[Del Coqui]

Since so many people see Cotto getting ko by Tony if he wins will he get your respect and should mayweather have to face him.

Nope, those who wanna see Cotto get KOd are the same ones who're gonna say Tony was overrated, watch...