Rahman, Toney agree to fight on July 16

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    Rahman, Toney agree to fight on July 16

    Heavyweights Hasim Rahman and James Toney, both in dire need of a significant victory, will meet July 16 in a rematch after their handlers came to an agreement this week.

    "Top Rank and I and the fighters have agreed to the fight," Toney promoter Dan Goossen said. "It's a very tough division to have a high-profile fight in without it being for a world championship, but the winner of this fight will have another opportunity to fight for another championship."

    They will meet in a scheduled 12-rounder at the Pechanga resort in Temecula, Calif., Goossen said. He was working Friday to finalize a television deal for the fight.

    "I think they're both marquee names, but they are at a crossroads in their careers," said Todd duBoef, president of Top Rank, which promotes Rahman. "It's all or nothing in a division that has suffered terribly with lackluster performances lately. The winner of the fight should be given the opportunity to fight for one of the titles."

    Rahman, a former two-time heavyweight champion, fought to a draw with Toney in March 2006 to retain his version of the title.

    Both fighters have struggled since.

    In his next fight five months later, Rahman (45-6-2, 36 KOs) lost his title when he was knocked out by Oleg Maskaev for the second time. Rahman has won four bouts since, but he has had uneven performances against low-level competition.

    The downfall for Toney (70-6-3, 43 KOs), a former middleweight, super middleweight and cruiserweight champion, has been even more severe. After the draw with Rahman, he lost his next two fights to Samuel Peter, including a one-sided decision in their January 2007 title eliminator rematch.

    Toney outpointed journeyman Dan Batchelder four months later, but both fighters tested positive for steroids afterward. They were both suspended and Toney hasn't fought since.

    The suspension was Toney's second for a positive steroid test. The first, in April 2005, cost him a heavyweight title win against John Ruiz, when his decision victory was overturned to a no contest and the belt returned to Ruiz.

    "Toney knows he needs to show something," Rahman co-manager Steve Nelson said when the fight was first presented to him. "We know we need to show something. This fight can show who can move on as a factor in the division. We're both in the same boat. It's a fight to see who goes on. The guy who loses is done. There is nothing more that can be done or said for the loser. And there is a little unfinished business between these guys."

    Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
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    Toney is shot to pieces, and he STILL has a chance to win if he has a serious camp.

    Rahman's jab is gone, his right hand is slower than ever. He telegraphs every punch, and he's getting punched a lot more.

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    • Steak
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      my head will explode if either of these guys still somehow earn title shots. it would be almost as embarressing as Holyfield getting a title shot...but not quite as embarressing.

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        Originally posted by blackirish137
        my head will explode if either of these guys still somehow earn title shots.
        I had the same thought but I seriously doubt that would happen. Too much "new blood" has risen near the top of the division for that to happen (hopefully).

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          man i have nothing to say. Why would people want to see this fight? Wasnt the first fight enough torturE?

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            Originally posted by texanballer
            man i have nothing to say. Why would people want to see this fight? Wasnt the first fight enough torturE?

            For a Wednesday night fight in the middle of the summer, it's ok.

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              James Nathaniel Toney is still ****ing cool in my eyes.

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                James Nathaniel Toney is still a ****ing fool in my eyes.

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                  I think Rahman will stop Toney. Toney performed so bad his last fight, even though he was doped. And now hes inactive for a year and propably even more done and out of shape. If Rahman comes in under 245 he will stop Toney, even if Toney comes in under 230. I think its to late for Toney, even if he comes in light because hes old and Rahman is a few years jounger and much stronger. I doubt that Toney will be able to stand 12 rounds with Rahman. He cant move as he used to and hes muuuuch slower. Rahman is slower too but i think hes better conditioned and he has much more power and he will end Toney career. The Toney that fought Holyfield is history, this Toney could have easily beaten anyone at heavyweight, only Klitschkos would be verry difficult. But after the Holyfield fight Toney became fatter and slower and now hes to old to do anything.
                  Last edited by Tobi.G; 05-31-2008, 01:18 PM.

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                    Originally posted by Tobi.G
                    I think Rahman will stop Toney. Toney performed so bad his last fight, even though he was doped. And now hes inactive for a year and propably even more done and out of shape. If Rahman comes in under 245 he will stop Toney, even if Toney comes in under 230. I think its to late for Toney, even if he comes in light because hes old and Rahman is a few years jounger and much stronger. I doubt that Toney will be able to stand 12 rounds with Rahman. He cant move as he used to and hes muuuuch slower. Rahman is slower too but i think hes better conditioned and he has much more power and he will end Toney career. The Toney that fought Holyfield is history, this Toney could have easily beaten anyone at heavyweight, only Klitschkos would be verry difficult. But after the Holyfield fight Toney became fatter and slower and now hes to old to do anything.
                    Agreed, good post... but still i think Toney is likely to go 12 rounds. He may be shot but his chin is still good.

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